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Good day, brothers and sisters. I've recently been struck with a piece of knowledge: music is haram in Islam. I've checked a couple websites and they all seemed to support the music is haram. Now, I don't quite understand this. There are articles about how music drives a person's mind away from the Creator, and that music causes inappropriate feelings to arise, such as arousal and such. I don't quite understand this because neither to I feel distant from God while listening to music, nor do I get aroused. If anything, music calms my mind when I feel inappropriate feelings. And when I listen to music, I KNOW that it was God who give musicians the ability to make music. Can someone pleas clarify this for me? Listening to music is the only thing I find joyful in life. Finding out that the one thing I love the most in life is a sin is devastating. It's like being best friends with someone, only to find out years later that that person was plotting your downfall all along.

asked 13113 EnesNadir's gravatar image

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I've answered how I've felt I should have answered, to you your practices and to me mine.

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answered 316 jook's gravatar image

The thing is, there are different views in Islam. You can't deny it, scholars' opinions tend to differ. Various scholars say music is haram no matter what, other scholars say it is only haram if it leads the listener to commit a sin.

I've been reading on this matter in other websites. According to a Turkish article that I've found, İmam Gazzâlî wrote in his book İhyâ that:

Listening to music in any form isn't subject to just one provision, but rather it can be Haram, makrooh, lawful, and even Mustahab.

  1. Only music that invokes worldly desires and similar feelings on teenagers is haram.
  2. For those who waste their time on nothing but music, it is makrooh.
  3. For those who just appreciate music and are not overcome with inappropriate feelings, music is lawful.
  4. For those who are overflowing with love for God, and who get religiously enlightened when they listen to (certain types of) music, music is mustahab.

As Gazzali furthered his examination, he found that according to the situation, music can be lawful or unlawful. What makes music haram is made up of external reasons, which are:

  1. If the singing person is a woman, and the listener thinks that the woman's voice will invoke lust in him, then it is haram for him. As a result, what makes this situation haram is not the music itself, but rather the woman's voice. A woman's voice isn't haram itself either, but if it invokes lust, even listening to a woman reading Quran is haram.
  2. If the musical instrument being played is one that is usually symbolic for alcohol centers such as pubs, then it is haram to listen to or play that instrument.
  3. If the lyrics are corrupt and are against Islamic beliefs, then it is haram to listen to this song.
  4. If a youth falls victim to his/her extreme emotions, and if music only strengthens this youth's sexual desires, then such a person should stay away from music.
  5. If an ordinary person who is not affected by music in any negative way, but wastes all his/her time on it, then again it is haram.

(Sorry if there are any mistakes, the above is a rough translation from Turkish)

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answered 13113 EnesNadir's gravatar image
edited Mar 11 '13 at 18:45

Thank you for your thoughtful research. I am glad to have the interpretation of the great Imam al-Ghazzali.

(Mar 11 '13 at 18:50) tursun tursun's gravatar image

You just copy-pasted a bunch of hadiths related to music. That isn't discussion, you're just mindlessly repeating traditional texts. The problem is what to do with this information, as I was getting at, but instead of having a thoughtful discussion your knee-jerk response is just to frantically quote texts. Now what?

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answered 2016 tursun's gravatar image

I have not copy paste random text. They were all sayings of the Scholars supported by Qur'an and Hadeeths (S.A.W). And thus you can not deny so this reaction of your is expected.

(Mar 12 '13 at 08:49) believer ♦ believer's gravatar image

@tursun

Ok, in short you just want to take what you want from Sunnah and you neglect which is against your Nafs. Let me quote you what Allah Says in the Holy Quran Chapter 53 Surah Najm verses 2-6:

2 Your Companion (Mohamed (saws)) is neither astray nor being misled

3 Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) desire.

4 It is no less than 'wahi' (inspiration) sent down to him:

5 He was taught by one mighty in power

6 endued with wisdom.

So you can not neglect the sunnah as Holy Qur'an says itself that Holy Prophet (S.A.W) doesn't say a word from his own desire. And you try to make lawful things which are prohibited.

Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 41, Hadith # 4909 Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud(raa) : Salam ibn Miskin(raa), quoting an old man who witnessed AbuWa'il in a wedding feast, said: They began to play, amuse and sing. He united the support of his hand round his knees that were drawn up, and said: I heard Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) say: I heard the apostle of Allah (SAW) say: Singing produces hypocrisy in the heart.

Sahih Al-Bukhari and agreed upon by At-Tabari. Sa'id ibn Jubayr(raa) reported that Ibn 'Abbas(raa) said about the verse: "And of mankind is he who purchases idle talks" (31:6), that, "ldle talks means singing and the like."

The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam) said : "A people of my Ummah will drink wine, calling it by other than its real name. Merriment will be made for them through the playing of musical instruments and the singing of female singers. Allah (SWT) will cleave the earth under them and turn others into apes and swine." (Narration of Ibn Maajah ) note : This hadeeth has also been narrated by al-Bayhaaqi and ibn Asaakir, and has been authenticated by the renowned scholar of hadeeth Ibn al-Qayyim.

Source: http://ibnfarooq.tripod.com/music.htm

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Statements of the Early Muslim scholars

When ‘Umar Ibn ‘Abdil ‘Aziz, may Allah be pleased with him, sent his son to his teacher, Suhayl, he wrote: “The first lesson to be taught to him is hatred of musical instruments, which begins from shaytan and ends with the wrath of Allah. I have heard from reliable scholars that to be present in gatherings of music and to listen to it causes hypocrisy to grow in the heart like water causes grass to grow. By my soul, it is easier for an intelligent person to save himself from the evil of such places than to allow hypocrisy nourishing in the heart.

Ibn al-Qayyim said: “Listening to the music of a strange women and a beardless youth is one of the greatest prohibited acts. Imam Shafi said regarding the owner of a female slave that if he gathers the people to listen to her then he is a foolish person whose testimony will not be accepted and above this he is regarded as a ‘Dayyoos’ (cuckold, i.e. one who is married to an unfaithful wife!).

Ibn Taymiyah said: “Whoever plays these instruments as a form of worship is undoubtedly misguided and ignorant. However, if he does it as a form of entertainment, then the view of the four imams is that all musical instruments are haram. It is proven in Sahih al-Bukhari and elsewhere that the Prophet sallAllahu ‘alayhi wa sallam said that there would be among his ummah those who regarded zina, silk, alcohol and musical instruments as lawful, and he said that they would be transformed into monkeys and pigs.

Al-Albani said that: “the four imams are united that all musical instruments are haram

Are you a bigger scholar then all the above? Or you will deny them as well?

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answered 1.2k16 believer's gravatar image

a) You keep repeating that the Qur'an doesn't provide instructions for Salaat. For that, and for many other aspects of practice and lifestyle, Muslims rely on the Sunnah. Since there's no prohibition of music in the Qur'an, there's no problem. Muhammad (S) on the other hand was a product of a time and a culture, and therefore the Hadith have to be understood in context. You just need to follow the intention, or you'll be as bad as those guys who don't eat melon simply because there's no mention of Muhammad (S) eating melon in the hadith. Muhammad never mentioned Beethoven, but it's so obvious that that is different socially from the sex slave singing girls who were the defining feature of musical performance at the time which Muhammad (S) forbade people from listening to.

b) Your second paragraph makes it seem like you haven't been paying attention to this conversation. First of all, you seem to be completely oblivious to the ideas of learned behavior and social constructs, over which we have no control since we are a product of our surroundings and it's impossible for us to have a thought that is not rooted in trillions of other stimuli from our environment. And even that you say "haram music" implies that you are making the decision about what is haram and not. If that's the case, then you, pal, are adapting the sunnah to the modern world. It's nothing to be ashamed of - Muslims have been doing it since the 'ilm al-hadith began. Instead of just repeatedly insisting that you are following the Sunnah to the letter, man up and acknowledge that you only do so by using your 'aql on it.

It's obvious that there is a deep spirituality embedded in many kinds of music, and it's sad to see someone deny that based on a narrow self-deluding insistence that following the sunnah can be done without thinking. 'Aql is not just for big ideas, it's our basic method of understanding.

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answered 2016 tursun's gravatar image

How did a discussion about whether music is halal or haram turn into a debate whether hadiths are credible or not? People in my country not only rely on hadiths, but also on books by Said Nursi and Fethullah Gülen. As a result, I believe that we shouldn't solely rely on what is said in the Quran. And by the way, I've asked numerous Muslim people around me, not even one of them supported that music is haram. They all shared my view; music, as a whole, is not haram, but there are certain kinds of songs whose lyrics aren't appropriate for listening.

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answered 13113 EnesNadir's gravatar image

@tursun

You are again saying the same things in another way.

First you say you believe Allah Knows every minute of past,present and future then you give this statement "since features of life like music, which we are discussing, are different now than they were then" . Holy Qur'an and Sunnah are the guidance till the end of the world so wha was haram that time is still haram and what was halal that time will remain halal.

Brother, I lived in the East and in the West and I really don't know what does society has to do within the boundaries of you home. I said a simple thing which is not hard or difficult that don't listen to haram music does it any hard for you to change a T.V. channel or not downloading these kind a music? What others do is not your concerned if they listen to haram music then they will be accountable not you, If your neighbors are listening loud music which your ears are listening too, you can do what is in your hands, you can ask them to lower the voice or of they don't then they will be punished not you, you are only responsible for yourself. I live in same world and lived in multiple societies Alhamdulillah, I don't find it hard.

And regarding you saying "music halal or haram are squarely within the domain of personal 'aql,", brother Aql has nothing to do with haram or halal. What Allah and his Messenger (S.A.W) have forbidden is forbidden and what is lawful is lawful. We can not understand the expediency of Allah (S.W.T) by our Aql. If you start to think on religion with our little human Aql then you will go astray brother. Our Aql don't say there are angels but it is our believe which says, yes angels are also the creatures of Allah (S.A.W) our Aql don't say there are Jinns in this world but it is our believe in Allah's Word which says yes they are also the creatures of Allah (S.W.T). Aql has made people went astray from true path, so we should relay on Qur'an and Sunnah and not Aql.

Adam and Eve have been given Aql and they ate from the tree which have been made forbidden for them by Allah (S.W.T) so they were sent from Heaven to Earth due to their disobedience, their Aql wrong themselves. This is what their Aql did with them, so what Allah and Messenger (S.A.W) have forbidden for us we should not try to make them lawful for our self otherwise the same will happen with us as well.

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@jook

Prostration is not Salaah, Prostration is Sujood and There is "Sajda-e-Tilawat" as well which we perform when we recite a verse of Sajdah while reciting the Holy Qur'an, and we don't call it Salaah but Sajdah, which tells Sadjah is not Salaah. So, don't provide me useless excuses and provide me complete procedure from Holy Qur'an, tell any muslim that sujood is prayer and he will laugh at you. Who told you that first you have to make niyyah (Intention) then fold your hands recite Fatiha and any surah and go to rukoo and what to say in ruko and then prostrate etc and how to complete your Salaah.

Tell me do you pray in masjid or in your house by just doing sujood? and do you even recite a tasbeeh when prostration? Tell me how you offer your salaah?

Tell me are you a Muslim or not? because you are neglecting Hadeeths (S.A.W) an you have not even added a durood after writing the name of Holy prophet.

And if you say yourself "We are with him, in the extent of what he believes", then tell me who told yo what were his (S.A.W) believes ?Because then again to know his (S.A.W) believes and practices you have to again look at the hadiths. And hadiths came from a chain of narrations so there is no dispute in it. And proves are the writing of Sahaba Karem (R.A) and Muhammad (S.A.W) it self. And Holy Qur'an was revealed on Holy prophet (S.A.W) and it came to us by Sahaba memorizing and writing in to them, if you doubt that hadiths are not the words of Holy prophet (S.A.W) and that people have written them their selves so what is the proof you have that they haven't edited (Naozubillah) the Holy Qur'an? To believe in Qur'an you have to believe in hadeeths (S.A.W). Holy Qur'an it self says,

And obey Allah and the Messenger that you may obtain mercy. (3:132)

You have to Obey the messenger or you go against Qur'an. And the believes and practices of Holy Prophet (S.A.W) are written Hadeeths (S.A.W). The Sahabas (R.A) spent their lives in securing the words of Holy Prophet (S.A.W) and you kids after 1400 years think they have no use. Seriously, tell me are you Muslim or not? or you belong to Ahmadiyah community?

However my question remain unanswered from you that is, provide me the procedure of performing salaah from Holy Qur'an. And how to you offer salaah @jook?

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answered 1.2k16 believer's gravatar image

I apologize for using the word hypocrite. That was uncalled for.

Thank you for your thoughtful answer. It's still a question that is difficult to resolve, though. Of course the Lord (jalla jalaaluhu) knows every infinitely minute detail of the past, present, and future. But the Prophet (SAWS) did not - he (S) was just a messenger. I am sincere in asking this: how do we apply the sunnah to aspects of life that are totally different from those of 7th century Arabia? I don't think it is abusing time to wonder this, since features of life like music, which we are discussing, are different now than they were then. It is difficult to see how it can be done without using our own ta'wil on everything. I still feel that the conditions for what makes music halal or haram are squarely within the domain of personal 'aql, and once that door is opened then where do we stop? I like the idea that Islam is so resilient that it can fit perfectly within all societies, and so I will keep doing ijtihaad to understand our world in the light of the Qur'an. Brother I wish we could talk in person since I think this is n extremely important question. Of course iman and taqwa are more than just obsessively following all the prescriptions, but I know they are there for a reason, so how to work them into the modern world is a constant struggle.

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answered 2016 tursun's gravatar image

It's a natural instinct to prostrate in prayer, for those who are able to. Allah guides us to this, to salah, to sujud. Faith is involved with out relationship with God, not just knowledge.

48:29 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.

even if read without the words in brackets, it is evident that any believer who has faith can understand that prostration is a proper act during prayer. Also, some people pray standing up, though more prostrate than those standing during prayer.

Also, just because Muhammad is not with us in a physical body on earth, does that mean we are not "with" him? We are with him, in the extent of what he believes, us that do believe. If you were to hear his voice tell you to do something, would you obey him? Or did he go mute after those so called "hadiths" were put into print? Where is the proof from Allah that those are actually Muhammad's words? God did not claim in the Qur'an that the hadiths which came after the Qur'an are His revealed word, nor did he say that those are Muhammad's words.. He did reveal the former scriptures, are those not valid to you?

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