I'm asking this question because I just got off of the phone with a brother and he told me that he follows the salaf, and another brother said that he is upon the salaf, I must ask is this the sunnah of the Rasul saws
"Why don't the Pakistani government rise up and kill all Christians?" they would lose billions of dollars in foreign aid. speaking of the pakistani government and your appearent blindness to the atrocities committed by muslim, what do you think of article XX in pakistan? the fellow muslims', who receive people of different faiths with open arms, law against the people of the ahmadi faith.
"Those bombing innocent people are terrorists and will probably burn in hell. They also bomb eachother... LOL" yes i know, the sunni blow up the shia all the time, especially during ashura.
"Well bro, you follow what you like, I know that Islam doesn't teach bad things." well somebody's not getting the memo.
"When I read these verses you brought up, I can see what you think, and understand, but you have to read with understanding, why do you think over a billion Muslims don't do it the way you say Kuran says to do? Is it because they don't believe in the whole Kuran? In that case they can't be Muslims. over 90% of the Muslims are peaceful." maybe so, but there are 1.5 billion muslims. that would mean there are 150,000,000 violent muslims.
"The rest read the Kuran without a brain like you." certainly possible. or maybe some just put blind faith in the one guy in the village who does know how to read, and do whatever he says. glad to see you get my point, the koran is poorly written and hard to understand for people without a brain like me. i can only imagine how easy it is to manipulate the illiterate afghans and pakistanis. one does have to wonder how educated people like al-zawahri and bin laden drew the conclusions they did if there isn't something in islam that allows for killing innocent women and children. maybe it's in the hadith.
"(They are not Muslims but they claim it.) And so they go blow themselves up... Good that you aren't Muslim-wannabe... Hehehe :D" don't worry i only believe in this life. i'm the fathest thing from a suicide bomber you will meet.
"And to kill those who spread corruption does not mean to kill almost anyone, to spread corruption means to murder and stuff like that." why put the phrase in there. it was already established thou shall not kill, and you can kill those who fight allah and his apostle. why add mischief makers? only spreads confusion.
"Every nations have this rule... China, USA, Russia and probably almost the whole world." yes most societies have a rule against murder. but not against "stuff like that". see you need to be more specific when making law. broad statements like spreading corruption or mischief or stuff like that, don't cut. and are obviously open to a wide inturpretation.
"But in Islam they have the chance to repent: "Except for those who return before you apprehend them."" so if a mass murderer turns himself in before he is caught and says he is sorry, you can't punish him?????
"and in Islam you don't have to kill those, it says: or that they be exiled from the land. If you ask me, that's very merciful..." were are you going to exile them too? what is this the mariel boat lift? you plan on send all you criminals to florida?
"Unlike the so called democratic nations USA and Israel who have killed over 1 million Muslims the past years." you are right, technically we aren't democratic, we a representative republic.
"Why are you criticizing Islam when your so called democratic nations do worse?" how is it america does worst?
"Why don't you criticize them?" i criticize american foriegn and domestic policy all the time. as does much of the world. we don't cry and say people who criticize us hate us. the french, the british, the canadians have all criticized us and we are still friends.
"Islam hater?" hate might be a little strong, i don't like islam, especially sharia and your lack of seperation of religin and governance.
"Islam is the only religion on earth being criticized," hm, i think the buddhist are under fire right now for burma and sri lanka.
"even while they are being killed, and yet Islam is the fastest growing religion on earth, Hahahaha, can you stop it???" lol. i won't have to stop it. y'all will imploded under the weight of your own overpopulation. not sure why muslims always think it is a good think that you have doubled your population in the last thirty years, given many of you live in deserts and could barely feed yourselves in the 80s.
so you are leanred about the koran, maybe you can tell me where gog and magog are?
Lmao dude... THE TRUTH IS THAT MUSLIMS ARE BEING ATTACKED PHYSICALLY VIOLENTLY AND VIA MEDIA, DO YOU GUYS REALLY THINK YOU WILL SUCCEED YOUR MISSION? AGAINST GOD? US MUSLIMS ALONE YOU COULD PROBABLY DEFEAT EASY, BUT DEFEAT GOD? YOU THINK YOU GOT DEEP RELATIONSHIP WITH SATAN BUT AT THE END YOU'LL SEE HE DECEIVED YOU, YOU WILL BOTH BE CAST INTO HELLFIRE, THEN YOU WILL ASK HIM WHY HE MISSLEADED YOU, HE WILL TELL YOU THAT HE NEVER FORCED YOU, IT WAS YOUR OWN CHOICE (LAUGHING), LOL! YOUR TIME IS WRONG, ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION WHILE IT IS BEING ATTACKED BY ALMOST ALL NATIONS ON EARTH, EVEN MUSLIM (U.S puppets) NATIONS. ARE PEOPLE CONVERTING BECAUSE THEY ARE THREATENED BY MUSLIMS? LOL, THEY ARE MORE THREATENED NOT TO CONVERT TO ISLAM, hahaha. YOUR POINT MAKE NO SENSE IF YOU COMPARE IT WITH THE REALITY... DO YOU THINK CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WOULD CONVERT TO ISLAM IF ISLAM WAS A VIOLENT RELIGION, LIKE THEY ARE TODAY? BRO, YOU SHOULD ACCEPT DEFEAT AND SUBMIT TO ALLAH. ALLAHU AKBAR! GLORYFIED BE THY NAME =D JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WHOLE NIGHT, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE REALITY, OR TAKE A REALITY CHECK...
wow, somebody has a flair for the dramatic.
"Lmao dude..." glad i could make you laugh. you know what they say, laughter is the best medicine.
"THE TRUTH IS THAT MUSLIMS ARE BEING ATTACKED PHYSICALLY VIOLENTLY AND VIA MEDIA, DO YOU GUYS REALLY THINK YOU WILL SUCCEED YOUR MISSION?" i didn't know i had a mission. i do think sharia is bad law and should be kept out of american courts. but the constitution should handle that.
"AGAINST GOD? US MUSLIMS ALONE YOU COULD PROBABLY DEFEAT EASY, BUT DEFEAT GOD?" now that is funny. now you sound like mullah omar.
"YOU THINK YOU GOT DEEP RELATIONSHIP WITH SATAN BUT AT THE END YOU'LL SEE HE DECEIVED YOU, YOU WILL BOTH BE CAST INTO HELLFIRE, THEN YOU WILL ASK HIM WHY HE MISSLEADED YOU, HE WILL TELL YOU THAT HE NEVER FORCED YOU, IT WAS YOUR OWN CHOICE (LAUGHING), LOL!" did you write the song war pigs? hand of god has struck the hour...satan laughing spreads his wings. something like that.
"YOUR TIME IS WRONG, ISLAM IS THE FASTEST GROWING RELIGION WHILE IT IS BEING ATTACKED BY ALMOST ALL NATIONS ON EARTH," yeah you have said that about y'all's ability to reproduce. i'm aware of the demographics of the world. appearently you have no idea as to how many countries there are in the world. there are around 200 countries, name 20 that are "attacking islam"
"EVEN MUSLIM (U.S puppets) NATIONS. ARE PEOPLE CONVERTING BECAUSE THEY ARE THREATENED BY MUSLIMS? LOL, THEY ARE MORE THREATENED NOT TO CONVERT TO ISLAM, hahaha." i don't follow you? muslims in egypt and tunisa are converting to islam?? that doesn't make sense. now copts in egypt may want to convert, 40 churches burned since the military deposed morsi.
"YOUR POINT MAKE NO SENSE IF YOU COMPARE IT WITH THE REALITY... DO YOU THINK CHRISTIANS AND JEWS WOULD CONVERT TO ISLAM IF ISLAM WAS A VIOLENT RELIGION, LIKE THEY ARE TODAY?" what are these conversion rates you think exist?
"BRO, YOU SHOULD ACCEPT DEFEAT" defeat of what?
"AND SUBMIT TO ALLAH. ALLAHU AKBAR! GLORYFIED BE THY NAME =D JUST ACCEPT DEFEAT, WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS WHOLE NIGHT, BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE REALITY, OR TAKE A REALITY CHECK..." i see the reality, you are the one who seems delusional. are you off your meds or something? try not to let your head explode. it's daytime here. but you have pleasent dreams.
Ok dude, not discussing this with you anymore, your ignorant. But I really believe in God like it says in the Quran, Torah and some places in the Bible. I believe in one unique God that created everything, and there is no limit to His power. And that God beget a child, I don't believe He did that, not because He can't, but because He chose not to, and because He stated it clearly in the Quran. And why I don't believe in Christianity is that they kiss and bear with them and bow down to something that was declared cursed in the Torah, that is the cross. They are following a Greek religion. Not Gods religion. Why do I believe in God in this days when almost everyone around me makes fun of it. That is because I see Gods signs everywhere, and if you declare that there is no God, then your not thankful. Peace.
ah, ignorant. the day wouldn't be complete without a muslim calling me ignorant. thanks, now i see the light. all praise is due to allah. so that 10% really seem to get around. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24282758 (poor fruit vendor)
perhaps your god should spend less time trying to DEFEAT me and more trying to defeat the terrorists? maybe some of that guidance that he will's to whom he chooses?
so the salaf lean heavy on the hadith's and the words and examples of muhammad to suppliment the koran. looks like some must love this hadith:
It is reported on the authority of Sa'b b. Jaththama that the Prophet of Allah (may peace be upon him), when asked about the women and children of the polytheists being killed during the night raid, said: They are from them.
as for me being not thankful, you have missed the mark again. i'm very thankful. i just am thankful to those who deserve it. i'm thankful to my parents and brothers and sisters and friends. hell like 15 years ago a buddy of mine had his bachlor party in new orleans and we were having diner at the house of blues. one guy suggested i give thanks before the meal. so i said something like, first we should thank those who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our meals, the cows, the pigs, the chickens and the fish. let us thank the farmers who raised them, the people who have done the dirty work for us, those who work in the slaughter houses and meet packing plants. those who transported our food for us. the construction workers who paved the way for the trucks. let us thank our forefathers who came here to form a more perfect union...(then the food started to arrive so i wraped it up) and let us not forget the cooks and most importantly the wait staff. (a waiter was standing next to me at that point). so i'm very thankful to those who deserve thanks.
btw i'm a pretty good tiper.
merry, how many books ya going to read? well never mind the zionist influence on the salafist. what do you think of your president returning home to have shoes thrown at him? sup wit dat?
Hi dear friend.
Salaf is a radical and awry branch of Islam,frankly speaking it s not even Islamic.This branch is apparently Islamic but has many opposing thoughts and attitudes in compare with real Islam..Their beliefs are influenced by Zionistic and Kabala thoughts.The Shias and Sunnys condomn this idealogy. The salafs are terrorists and they kill both Shia and Sunny people.Their intention is to schismatize among Muslims.They want to makethe people of entire world pesimistic about Islam.