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Okay, first and foremost, am I conspiracy nutter? No. I am a truth-seeker.

Illuminati exists. Whether you like it or not, Illuminati/Zionism did/does exist.

I love Islam and there are signs and symbols where we know Illuminati exists and The same is for Christianity, the bible mentions things regarding illuminati. I'm just thinking, how can both books speak of these signs? And the bible goes deeper and speak more on these illuminati stuff. (note: it talks about 666 which the Qur'an does not and the 666 is being portrayed by the music industry who are controlled by Masonic figures today) The Quran has several miracles that the bible doesn't have. I love Islam and I know Islam is the truth due to all the signs of the seas, the mood, the Earth But how comes there is nothing on illuminati?

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the illuminati folows the anti-Christ :P and u have to remember there are some things in the old testament that are correct because it is a book from god right? but the new bible has been changed right? by people who shouldnt mess with thing, people who destroy things. and maybe, the quran was decided not to focus on these things because they are not important. the only thing that is important in this life, other than the signs and what nots. are our actions.... and the lessons the quran teaches is supposed to help us....dont u think?

(Aug 21 '13 at 05:00) a_mohammed a_mohammed's gravatar image

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The Bible mentions nothing about the original Illuminati; a group founded in Bavaria in 1176 and disbanded by the Bavarian government in 1785.

There is no evidence whatsoever that the Bavarian Illuminati survived its suppression; however, this has not prevented conspiracy theorists from claiming that it did indeed survive, and that its descendents control and manipulate world events to this day; for example the French Revolution; the assassination of John F. Kennedy; and the (ongoing) formation of the ‘New World Order’.

The Bible mentions nothing about those people who, today, call themselves ‘Illuminati’.

Christian Evangelicals, however, claim that it does. In support of their claim they cite certain biblical verses said to ‘predict’ a New World Order, brought about by the ‘Illuminati’.

Here are the principal biblical texts most often put forward by the Evangelicals. All are taken from the King James Version of the Bible (the favoured Evangelical version). Make of them what you will:

Mark 13:22 - For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if [it were] possible, even the elect.

Revelation 16:14 - For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, [which] go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

Jude 1:4 - For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Revelation 3:9 - Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Ephesians 5:11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove [them].

Regarding the number 666:

The author of the Book of Revelation (in which the number is contained) was writing at a time of great persecution; when the Christian church was under attack from Rome, in the reign of Nero. The book uses obscure and exaggerated imagery and continues to be interpreted in several ways.

Some see it as a broad view of history; some as referring only to the events of the apostolic era; some that it refers to future events (the end times and subsequent judgement). Still others say that it does not refer to actual event or people at all, but is an allegory of the spiritual life and the endless struggle between good and evil.

The number of the beast (666) has been identified with the Emperor Nero; with the antichrist; with the Catholic Church; and with Satan himself. Some say that the meaning will be revealed only during the End Times.

How best to decide which of the many interpretations is true? Write each one down on a slip of paper. Then stand at the top of a flight of stairs (any stairs will do). Toss the papers into the air. The one that lands closest to you is probably the one you should select!

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how ya been paul? that's funny. so my friend you used to flip a coin wasn't far off. are you telling me the jews don't control international finance? don't tell me you don't believe that the rothschilds are shape shifters? so bar codes aren't the mark of the beast. and the mark of the beast shall be on their foreheads and right hands. don't you know the tracking chips they are putting in pets is just a trial run. have you never seen an american dollar bill? the pyramid with the eye over it.

no word on who allah wills to guide and those he causes to err, or seals their hearts?

(Aug 22 '13 at 10:12) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

Hi Mike,

I'm fine, thanks. How are things with you?

(Aug 22 '13 at 10:17) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

it's all good.

(Aug 22 '13 at 10:29) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

Glad to hear it.

Off to bonny Scotland for a break, so look after yourself! See you in Sept, inshallah.

(Aug 22 '13 at 10:34) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

cool, have fun. have a johnnie walker blue for me.

(Aug 22 '13 at 10:47) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

JazakAllah Khair, Paul. You really helped me! :) Turns out I was paranoid with all these stuff. Islam is the only solution.

(Aug 24 '13 at 07:17) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

Anytime. Glad to be of help. Sorry for the late reply; I've been on holiday.

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Experts should answer that.

answered 201 Ali%20A%20Mohamed's gravatar image

Is Illuminati a bunch of wrong doers?

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supposedly they follow the Antichrist,,,so...yeah,,,that would be wrong.

(Aug 23 '13 at 04:21) a_mohammed a_mohammed's gravatar image

But who are people of the Illuminati?

(Aug 23 '13 at 12:37) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

but if you are saying you believe they are controlling the world, then you aren't supposed to know. it's a SECRET society. shhhh!

(Aug 23 '13 at 12:48) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

Ohh so I must be quiet?

(Aug 24 '13 at 10:49) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

i'm just kidding dude. i have a very good friend who is quite intelligent who believes in the illuminati. but if it is a secret society, then how would anyone know who they are? dude man there are lots of theories. i meet a guy who claimed to be the last american rothschild once. he lives in st. pete. claimed to have the second largest collection of faberge eggs in the world.

uhm. john jacob astor. never heard him put in there before. makes sense he was the richest man ever. no carnegie or vandebilts? chinese family? new one to me?

you go ned

(Aug 24 '13 at 13:06) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

The Qur'an doesn't mention it because it isn't important. Allah SWT KNOWS what is important. Qur'an warns us enough times about Shaitan and that covers it. All that does not have healthy, good outcomes belongs in the Shaitan category. So it's easy to work out. Don' t waste your time on such miserably insignificant things, instead focus on learning more about and strengthening your deen. Your time is important.

answered 5287 stronghold's gravatar image

We have been told in hadith that the Anti-Christ is one eyed. as you know the all seeing one eye is the greatest symbol/sign for the illuminati and free masons.

Good luck in finding the truth:)

answered 387116 inclined2truth's gravatar image

Evil does not ever, ever, triumph over good. That's because Allaah SWT is in charge and NO ONEelse. Praise be to Alaah for his power and glory, it is unsurpassed and cannot be rivalled. Every single living thing will tremble in fear when facing Him. Hee has all the power. So it is better for you to focus on building up your deen, for your sake and those who are around you. Be a role model, a good one. Illuminati or any one-eyed monsters, well they will be taken care of. Don't worry about that, Alllaah is watching.

(Aug 23 '13 at 18:20) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

What is Antichrist going to do then if he is the one who are gonna tell the world about what? Who are the Antichrist in Islam then?

(Aug 25 '13 at 07:45) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

The Anti-Christ is a person who carry the biggest temptation/trial ever occurred on earth, he is one eyed, liar, he already exist/living but he did not announce about himself yet. his appearance is one of the signs of the Hour(End of world and start of afterlife), when he appear he will claim to be god but of course he is a liar.. he decorate the evil/falsehood to make it looks like good/truth and will distort the good/truth to make it looks like evil...etc Muslims are supposed to not follow/obey him. We seek refuge in Allah from his temptation.. and reading the first ten verses from Sourah Al Kahf no.18 is a protection from him.

As we know, many Jews rejected/denied the real Messiah/Christ (Jesus son of Mary, peace be upon both of them) because they wanted their Messiah to be a king as David and Solomon(pbut), while Jesus the Christ pbuh was calling them to be kings over their own egos and rule their kingdoms/bodies by controlling the ego and free the spirit/soul/mind in love with Allah. spiritually message/kingdom and not as material. (but they rejected him) and they are still waiting the prophecy of having a Messiah/Christ to occur. that is why they will follow the fake/liar/anti Christ. Some jews are not just waiting but they are preparing the way to this fake Christ.. illuminati and free masons and Zionists are working for this goal/plot from long time preparing the way for his appearance.. in a away that when it happens no one will be able to refuse him from his power/control/system on earth..(this power Allah allowed it to him as a trial to all of us, while there is no power in fact but by Allah) as good believers/muslims will refuse him and that is why there have been always a war against Islam.

and at the end we believe that Jesus the real Christ (son of Mary) will come as a sign of the Hour, and will kill the anti-Christ.

Thanks! and good luck for every seeker of the truth to find it and follows it.

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OK very good information. Hmm but you know who is Allah then? Because I got to say this, if Antichrist is a liar and Muslims are allowed to lie... Then what is right? I am just saying, okey?

(Aug 25 '13 at 13:27) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

sorry I did not get it! did I say that muslims are allowed to lie?

(Aug 25 '13 at 13:34) inclined2truth inclined2truth's gravatar image

No OK I am just saying... I want the truth. Lies are lies, they should come into the light...

(Aug 25 '13 at 13:50) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

No they're not allowed to lie. Give your proofs Flanders.

(Sep 03 '13 at 10:40) sadie ♦ sadie's gravatar image


Qur'an (3:54) - “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.” The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same.

Qur'an (8:30 and 10:21) Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

Qur'an (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

What can you say to this Sadie?

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You quote Al-‘Imran 54: “And they (the disbelievers) schemed, and Allah schemed (against them): and Allah is the best of schemers.”

You then go on to say that:

‘The Arabic word used here for scheme (or plot) is makara, which literally means deceit. If Allah is deceitful toward unbelievers, then there is little basis for denying that Muslims are allowed to do the same’.

I wish to comment only on your use of language.

I’m sure you are aware that an Arabic word may have a range of meanings, depending on the context in which it is used.

In Al-‘Imran 54 the words used are ‘wamakaru’ - meaning ‘and they schemed’; and ‘wamakara’ - meaning ‘and planned’.

This verse has been translated:

‘And (the unbelievers) plotted and planned, and Allah too planned, and the best of planners is Allah.’ (Yusuf Ali).

‘And they devised, and God devised, and God is the best of devisers.’ (Arberry).

‘And they planned and Allah (also) planned, and Allah is the best of planners.’ (Shakir).

‘The unbelievers plotted and God planned, but God is a much better planner.’ (Sarwar).

‘And the disbelievers planned, but Allah planned. And Allah is the best of planners.’ (H/K/Saheeh)

You refer to Al-Anfal 30. Here the words used are ‘yamkuru’ - meaning plotted; ‘wayamkuruna’ - meaning ‘and they were planning’; and ‘wayamkuru - meaning ‘and (also) was planning’.

This verse has been translated:

‘Remember how the Unbelievers plotted against thee, to keep thee in bonds, or slay thee, or get thee out (of thy home). They plot and plan, and Allah too plans; but the best of planners is Allah.’ (Yusuf Ali).

‘And when the unbelievers were devising against thee, to confine thee, or slay thee, or to expel thee, and were devising, and God was devising; and God is the best of devisers.’ (Arberry).

‘And when those who disbelieved devised plans against you that they might confine you or slay you or drive you away; and they devised plans and Allah too had arranged a plan; and Allah is the best of planners.’ (Shakir).

‘The unbelievers planned to imprison, murder or expel you (Muhammad) from your city. They make evil plans but God too plans and God's plans are the best.’ (Sarwar).

‘The disbelievers plot and scheme to neutralise you, or kill you, or banish you. However, they plot and scheme, but so does GOD. GOD is the best schemer.’ (Khalifa).

‘And (remember, O Muhammad), when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you (from Makkah). But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners.’ (H/K/Saheeh).

You cite Yunus 10. In this verse the words used are ‘makran’ - meaning ‘(in) planning’; and ‘tamkuruna’ - meaning ‘you plot'.

This verse has been translated:

‘When We make mankind taste of some mercy after adversity hath touched them, behold! they take to plotting against Our Signs! Say: "Swifter to plan is Allah!" Verily, Our messengers record all the plots that ye make!’ (Yusuf Ali).

‘When We let the people taste mercy after hardship has visited them, lo, they have a device concerning Our signs. Say: 'God is swifter at devising; surely Our messengers are writing down what you are devising’. (Arberry).

‘And when We make people taste of mercy after an affliction touches them, lo ! they devise plans against Our communication. Say: Allah is quicker to plan; surely Our messengers write down what you plan’. (Shakir).

‘When people are granted mercy after having suffered hardship, they begin to plot against Our revelations. Say, "God is the most swift in His plans." Our angelic messengers record all that you plot’. (Sarwar).

‘When we bestow mercy upon the people, after adversity had afflicted them, they immediately scheme against our revelations! Say, "GOD's scheming is far more effective. For our messengers are recording everything you scheme." ’(Khalifa).

‘And when We give the people a taste of mercy after adversity has touched them, at once they conspire against Our verses. Say, "Allah is swifter in strategy." Indeed, Our messengers record that which you conspire.’ (H/K/Saheeh)

My point:

You will note that in each of your citations the word ‘deceit’ is not used once.

Be careful in your use of language when you attempt to translate the Qur’an. People might suppose that you mean to deceive!

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Salamun Alaikum my brothers. According to my little knowledge both religeon & modern education. 'Illuminati' is true and is existing. Becouse Illuminatist are pretending worshipping Iblis (Shaitan) and work for him according to the well-known musicians e.g

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Paulus: It does not matter what is said back by others about what I have said, when Allah is a deceiver and plotted against others. Don´t you think he can plot against you to? Don´t you think he can deceive you to?

Okey you still need more, you talk about language.. OK take this sentence in Arabic:

Al-i-Imran (3:54) وَمَكَرُ‌وا وَمَكَرَ‌ اللَّـهُ ۖ وَاللَّـهُ خَيْرُ‌ الْمَاكِرِ‌ينَ ﴿٥٤﴾

Can you translate?

And you know when someone translate the Qur´an into English it should be right, someone can´t change this word deceive to plan. That makes Muslims just trying to do the same thing like Allah to deceive... Does it not?

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