And who brings "Mad Heat"?

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Insha Allah I will answer you question " why can't Allah be a father?". As for your question who brings mad heat? I am not sure what your asking. Okay im going to start with oneness of Allah. One Allah. His names and his attributes are his alone. Meaning one Allah his names are shared with No one. And his attributes are shared with No one. This is monotheism . Monotheism has been the message all the prophets have brought this is the true message. One Allah worship him Alone. Make not any beside him. This is a great sin . Believing that any source of power , harm and blessings come from others besides Allah is Shirk/ polytheism. Anything that breaks out of thus concept is MIS guidance and false deities . Now I really hope you understand what I said so far. Now im going to go back to his attributes. This means that Allah is not compared to anything in creation. He is the creator. Not the created. He isn't like us and we are not like him. So for him to be a father is against his existence. He does not nor will not marry be married , have children , or ever die. These are not apart of his attributes. These are that of the created. Not of the creator. Im going to stop there. I really hope this helps you and that I answered your question. I ask Allah subhanawa ta'ala to guide us all to a strong understanding of his religion Islam that he has chosen for us. Ameen.

answered 1.6k313 sadie's gravatar image

how come and there is nothing as like Him! is there a girlfriend/mother/spouse that can fit Him/ soubhanouh/exalted is Him!

"It is not (befitting) for Allah to take a son; exalted is He! When He decrees an affair, He only says to it "be" and it is." (19:35)

how come and(in the very beginning before the beginning starts) before that there be something called time and/or place there was nothing but Allah. and He created(bring to existence, from zero to a being/unit) every little and big thing.. and He is free of need from everything He created.. nothing of his creatures will increase or decrease from Him a thing.

"He is the Originator/Inventor of the Heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion(wife/girlfriend) and He created all things? And He is of all things, knowing."(6:101)

So for the physical meaning of "father" as I said it is impossible. But for the meaning of a father(kindness, mercy, generosity, depending on, helper, protector, provider and guide, reason of our life...etcetera)... all of these characters/meanings are included in the word "Rabb" =Lord. and He is the Lord of the all-worlds. (Rabb el aalameen).

For more deep meanings (not physical) for your question. Adam/we/human are created on "Allah's image" by the meaning of having some characters that will help us to understand some of the meanings of the characters of Allah. seven characters; "living, knowing, willing, able, hearing seeing and speaking." so we are living to understand the meaning that Allah is living.. but no comparison between our life and Allah's life.. He is living without start nor end and without a reason.. while ours is just an example. also our knowledge and His. He knows everything the beginning and end of everything even the drop of water on the stone in the dark night He knows its source and its setting place.. He knows even what is inside our mind.. our knowledge is just an example to know some of the meaning of the character of Allah "the Knowing the Knower" His will and ability and our will and ability, there is no comparison. he is able on everything that he wills, he just say "be" and it is.. while our ability/power is just limited by His will.. but it is an example to understand the meanings.. same with the hearing and seeing and speaking. He hear everything and see everything and speak.. not by ear and eyes and tongue as we do, exalted is Him, there is no limit for Him and there is no sound that will make him busy to hear another sound.. as He provide all his creation in the same time He is with all His creation in the same time.. it is just some characters that we got for we might understand how great is Allah. There is no deity(object deserve worship) except Him. and I am from the Muslims(surrendering and submitting to Him). There is no power but by Him and all praising and thanks are to Him. and unto Him we will all be returned and the arrogant/haughty(who think he is free of need) will not succeed.

answered 377116 inclined2truth's gravatar image

@Flanders, it is true that the quran has numbers, but what it doesn't do us attribute these numbers being Allah or attributed to Allah. Allah azza wal jall has attributed to Himself 81 names in the quran, the Rasul has called him by 18 in his sunnah, thus we have 99 attributes, inwhich none coincide with your theory. In islam we only accept the deen with textual proof, for it is forbidden to innovate into that which Allah has perfected, for every innovation is misguidance and every misguidance will reside in the fire. No muslim is saying or will say that to calculate numbers is of the devil, that would be foolish, what is being told to you is that what you are suggesting is of the devil and if you represent that and attempt to pass it off as islamic knowledge then you are that which you represent. And I made this clear, I told you that this concept is of the shaytan. What I find humorous is the fact that you used titles in your system of deceit, such as, eloheem, lord which isthe titles adoni, baal, which are names for pagan dieties, you refer to the books of Musa AS, but you never mention the name Yahweh which was given to Musa. Allah-Yahweh are the two revealed names. God by definition is not either of the names for the title god also is a pagan title. To you be your way and to me be mine I'm not going to believe as you do nor will you believe as I do, the difference is I'm not on your christian site promoting garbage. Salaam

answered 765830 yaqin's gravatar image

You call this garbage. OK if it is garbage then this is also garbage.

The numbers 47, 38 and 92.

Those numbers are 3 about Prophet Muhammed.

I made a research about them and I found many special relationship among them.

47: 4 + 7 = 11

38: 3 + 8 = 11

92: 9 + 2= 11

11 * 3 = 33

33 X 2 = 66 ---- The Numerical Value of the name ALLAH

(Sep 20 '13 at 14:11) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

33 and 5

There are strange relationship between 33 and 5.

Multiple 33 to 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.

33 X 1 = 33 --- The number of DHIKR (33 times Subhanallah, 33 times Alhamdulillah, 33 times Lailahailallah)

33 X 2 = 66 ---- The Numerical Value of the name ALLAH

The Numerical Value of ALLAH = Alif + Lam + Lam + ha = 1 + 30 + 30 + 5 = 66

Is this wrong?

(Sep 20 '13 at 14:12) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

Yes flanders this is still garbage for mire reasons than you know. But if that suffices you then so be it, what you propose is not even worth debating, for yhat would be giving credit to non sense.salaam

answered 765830 yaqin's gravatar image

I will show something here:

The longest surah in Al-Qur'an is Al-Baqarah = 286 verses. The shortest surah in Al-Qur'an is Al-Kautsar = 3 verses.

2 + 8 + 6 + 3 = 19

So Allah is the number 19.


The Father is the number 91.

91 / 7 = 13

So the Father is the number 13.

13 - 7 = 6

13 + 6 = 19

So the Father is also the number 19. So Allah is the Father.

If you take 13 + 19 = 32


Elohim: 62 Allah: 34

62 + 34 = 96 96 / 3 = 32

So Elohim and Allah is the Father.

And if you take:

Elohim: 62

Lord: 49

62 + 49 = 111

So the Lord and Elohim are the number 111.

You divide that with 3, then you get 37.

37= 3 * 7 = 21

So the Lord and Elohim is the number 21.

37= 3 minus 7 = 4

And from up there:

  • First surah is Al-Fatihah = 7 verses. The last surah is An-Naas = 6 verses.

76 / 19 = 4

So you have 21 and 4.

Al-Fatihah and 17

Muslims pray 5 times a day. Fajr = 2 rakaah Dhuhr = 4 rakaah Ashr = 4 rakaah Maghrib = 3 rakaah Isha = 4 Rakaah. Total = 17 rakaah / day.

Every rakaah, Muslims must recite Al-Fatihah. So in 5 time prayer, Muslims recite 17 times Al-Fatihah.

So if you take 17 minus 4 from before = 13

The Father is the number 13.

Some say the numbers 47, 38, 92 are related to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) And the Numerical value of

MUHAMMD is 92 --- and ---- 473892 is DIVISIBLE BY 92.

473892 / 92 = 5151 ----- look at those sweet order of the numbers.

51 and 51 will give you 6 and 6 ----- 66 is the Numerical Value of ALLAH.

But wait a little:

51 and 51 will also give you 4 and 4 ----- 44


66 + 44 = 110

And what can we do with that you think.

We then:

Quran: 2:110

Establish your prayers and pay the obligatory charity. Everything good you send ahead for yourselves, you will find in God's care. God sees what you do.

So that makes Muslim´s who pray doing the right thing.

But wait a little:

If you take Allah is used in the Quran, that is 301 times.

And if you take the word God is used in Genesis, that is 203 times.

301 / 7 = 43

203 / 7 = 29

43 + 29 = 72

72 * 2 = 144

Lord: 49

144 - 49 = 95

95 / 5 = 19

95 + 19 = 114

Quran 2: 114

Who does greater evil than those who block the path to the temple of God, so that God's name should not be invoked where, and who will destroy them? Such people should not enter there without fear. For those waiting shame in mortality and major penalties in the next!

But wait a little, Moses came with more then Genesis. He came with 4 other books.

Then in the books of Moses the word God is used 501 times.

So we then take:

501 + 301(Quran) + 203(Genesis) = 1005

1005 / 5 = 201

201 / 3 = 67

The number 67 is for: Herren

Herren you think now, it is the same as Lord.

So all books are from the Lord, no one can go and call others disbelievers. And if you wanna be right, it was Moses that brought the belief in God. What others have made after wards believing in other is their propblem. For if you wanna see something else:

501 times God in the books of Moses or the Torah.

And we have Judaism, Christianity and Islam. That´s three religions.

501 / 3 = 167

167 + 67(Herren) = 234

301 in the Quran - 67(Herren) = 234

Two times the number 234 can be found, so we:

2 + 3 + 4 = 9

234 / 9 = 26

26 / 2 = 13

Ohh The Father is the number 13, so it is the Father Muslim´s should pray to. It is the Father who rules. It is the Father who is God. Muslim´s say that Allah can not be a father, but if Allah can not be a father so can Allah have a Father. Can´t he?

answered 4411139 UnknownUser's gravatar image

There are 8 letters in your name. Your name was followed by a 7 at the time you wrote your post, and then by the number 3. That makes 18. 18 is divisible by 6 three times (6 + 6 + 6).

666 the Mark of the Beast. Then the Beast must be YOU!

It's amazing what one can do with numbers, don't you think?

(Sep 20 '13 at 08:58) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

Flanders Allah is not the father or a father nor the son of a father, what you are attempt to do here is call to Allah's wrath. Your numbers can never add up to the Source of all things known and unknown. This concept is nothing but the shaytan. The sister Sadie has pointed out so well that the creator is not creation for creation is something done by the creator, and the creator is high above the creation and NOTHING is like Him. Your analigy is rejected, for what you have suggested is shirk. Only a devil would do such. Salaam

(Sep 20 '13 at 09:21) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

If my name is 8 letters and followed by a 7, then that makes 8 + 7 = 15, 15 divided by 3 is 5. Muslims pray to Allah 5 times a day and Muslims go to the Mosque on the fifth day. So Paulus13 are you denying that to? Is not the number 5 in Islam Important? You say also the number 18 is 6 + 6 + 6, but is it not also 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 and 9 + 9 also?


(Sep 20 '13 at 12:00) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

Then if you take 3 numbers + 6 numbers and + 2 numbers, that makes the number 11. So it is the number 11. And if you take 6 + 6 + 6 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 9 + 9 = 54. So if you take that and minus that with 11, then you get the number 43. And that is important in the Quran as noted before. If you then take 54 plus 11, that makes it the number 65. 65 / 5 = 13

And 13 is the number of Father. I can keep on going, you say it is the Devil who calculate numbers. but have you read the Bible/Torah and the Quran? It is filled with numbers.

(Sep 20 '13 at 12:03) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

And if Muslim´s go around and say numbers is the way of the Devil, then they are saying that the Quran is the book of the Devil. Can I make this more clear?

(Sep 20 '13 at 12:17) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image
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