I heard it being mentioned in a story but I didn't quite hear exactly what it was. I heard that it's a very sad story so I wondered what the battle of the camels is. What happened in this battle?

asked 110311 omar's gravatar image

@Omar this question you ask has a lot of implications, for it tells of the attack of the Rasul saws family which Allah has commanded us to send salutations on. It also confirms a couple of prophecys the Rasul spoke about during his lifetime. The two people involved who had attacked the Rasuls family has brought about a lasting conflict amongst the ummah to this very day. This is one of the sadness you speak of the atrocity is the harm brought to the family of our blessed prophets family and the wrong in not obeying the command of Allah. May Allah forgive all involved.salaam

(Oct 18 '13 at 07:44) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

yaqin, you think this wiki page got it right. looks different from the last time i read it? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Camel

talk about not getting along with your mother-in-law.

(Oct 18 '13 at 10:20) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

No mike this information is tainted, it is a known fact that Muawwiyah ibn sufiyaan who refused to give his allegiance to Ali ibn talib is who the Sister sided with to fight Ali. There was no reconciliation, Ali reminded her of the dutys of the prophets wives which the most important one was for them to stay in their homes. Which she was told amongst other things by her fellow wives before she started on her mission of war against the Rasuls family. Salaam

(Oct 18 '13 at 11:37) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

"not to fight Muawiyah" maybe that is supposed to read fight "with"? clearly if he didn't give his alliegance to ali he would have either fought ali or been neutral. maybe you should change the page, correct it. but the jist of it is right, right? "the Sister" aishsa fought ali because she and some muslim weren't happy about his appearent disinterest in finding uthman's killers? 10,000 killed?

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Yes mike that was the cover story, but the untold story is that the tribe of ummayyad wanted the khalifahship and the tribe of Tamim wanted it back. Now go figure!

(Oct 18 '13 at 12:55) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

so this battle is still being fought, just with petro-islam instead of swords?

(Oct 18 '13 at 13:37) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

True amongst other things, its sad but true.

(Oct 18 '13 at 14:43) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

i was thinking. "with" is not a good word there either. if i understand you corretly it should read "not to fight along side muawiyah". i meant with as in alongside but it could be interprated as against. was aisha a tamim? i didn't see her or abu bakr listed amoung the notables?

(Oct 19 '13 at 11:45) mikejm mikejm's gravatar image

Yes she was tamim and so was her father.

(Oct 19 '13 at 13:15) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Then another wiki page for u to correct. Two rather important notables to leave off the list. So the banu quarish, however u spell that, we're divided even after becoming Muslims?

(Oct 19 '13 at 17:29) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

Yes mike this is the truth, and i have no problem with it for i dont ascribe to give men qualities that they dont deserve, most teach that all the companions were noble in character but the qur'an states different 9:101 and in many other places. this is not a problem for me i embrace the fact that some where good and righteous and some where not and the fact that Allah said the Rasul saws didnt know who they where, then no historian can tell me who they are, to do so would be only there opinion. and the first to use his own opinion was the shaytan. Go figure!

(Oct 19 '13 at 18:27) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Yeah that is one of you're big problems. Tribalism. Intolerance towards those who are different.

(Oct 19 '13 at 19:09) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

So sad but true.

(Oct 19 '13 at 19:16) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Watching a movie and Muhammad Ali I trying to dodge the draft on Islamic principle. Did u say noi are kaffirs?

(Oct 19 '13 at 19:42) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

Yes they are mike.

(Oct 19 '13 at 21:06) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Who was their founder fared? Do they consider him and maybe the most honorable Elijah Muhammad as prophets? Don't tell me they think Farrakhan is a prophet?

(Oct 19 '13 at 21:18) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image

They believe that farad is Allah and elijah is a prophet and farrakhan is the same.

(Oct 19 '13 at 22:34) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

I've seen Farrakhan speak several times. NOI is one big pot of crazy. Apparently Elijah Mohammed is at the right hand of God, hear them tell it.

(Oct 19 '13 at 23:01) puppas puppas's gravatar image

all religions are a big pot of crazy. what makes him any crazier than any other religion who claims it's founder to be a prophet? or a god?

(Oct 21 '13 at 13:57) abul rauf abul%20rauf's gravatar image
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