Asalaamu alaykum brothers and sisters. Is ruqya shirk? If you don't give me texual proofs from Qur'an and Authenticated Sunnah I won't except it. Lets discuss Insha Allah. Salaam

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Salaam sister,

Ruqyah are of two types:

1.Ruqyah Ash Shar'eeya

2.Ruqyah Ash Shirkiyah

Ruqyah Ash Shar'eeya has three conditions. Ibn Hajar (rahimuhullah) said there is a consensus on the using of Ruqyah if three conditions are met:1) It must be with the speech of Allah (Qur'aan) and his names and attributes.2) It must be in the Arabic language, or what is known to be its meaning in other languages.3) To believe that Ruqyah has no benefit by itself, but the benefits are from Allah. 

This type of Ruqyah is permissible and we confirm this belief from the hadiths and the sunnah of our Prophet Mohammad saws.

Sahih Bukhari Hadith (Volume 7, Number 631)

Narrated 'Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her)

During the Prophet's (prayers and peace be upon him) fatal illness, he used to recite the Mu'auwidhat (Surat An-Nas and Surat Al-Falaq) and then blow his breath over his body. When his illness was aggravated, I used to recite those two Suras and blow my breath over him and make him rub his body with his own hand for its blessings." (Ma'mar asked Az-Zuhri: How did the Prophet (prayers and peace be upon him) use to blow? Az-Zuhri said: He used to blow on his hands and then passed them over his face.) 

Sahih Bukhari Hadith (Volume 7, Number 639)

Narrated 'Aisha (May Allah be pleased with her)

The Prophet (prayers and peace be upon him) used to treat some of his wives by passing his right hand over the place of ailment and used to say,

"Oh Allah, the Lord of the people! Remove the trouble and heal the patient, for You are the Healer. No healing is of any avail but Yours; healing that will leave behind no ailment."

Ruqyah Ash Shirkiyah contradicts the conditions of Ruqyah Ash Shar'eeyah and has in it Shirk, associating partners with Allah. It leads a person to his destruction in this life and the next and increases calamities and sicknesses. This type of Ruqyah is prohibited, from the statement of the Prophet (saws) This type includes: Magic (whether learning, practicing, or teaching it), Fortune telling, Horoscopes, superstitious belief, and at-Tameemah ( charms and amulets).

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@stronghold what you posted is the haqq according to the lone hadith reported by Aisha, but what about asking one to perform ruqyah for you espescially if he is asking for money to perform it? I'm going to wait to post on this topic but in the meantime please give me your insight on my question. Salaam

(Oct 31 '13 at 12:25) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image
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Being a Raqi myself, I think what you have to remember is that this a Big job because the after effects of removing magic or jinn through ruqya has a majors effect because the people that sent it in the first place will carry on trying and will send jinns to attack the Raqi.To be raqi its very difficult to have a normal life. So working will be difficult if at the same time your helping remove deep magic or jinn possession. Obviously the person doing the Ruqya wil charge you for his time as he has to eat live and support his family. Another thing I find difficult to understand is why muslims are so willng to spend hundreds of pounds on wasteful things and paying hundreds for private tuitioning and all sorts. But when it comes to giving money for islamic classes or Ruqya suddenly everyone becomes poor and are not willing to pay for treatment. Its different if someone demands a large sum like 500pounds n keeps demanding but if charges a reasonable price then I have no issue with that all.

(Oct 31 '13 at 12:58) Faisal26 Faisal26's gravatar image

Im moving you post under comment. Because my dear brother thus post isn't answering my question. However it pertains to Yaqins comment. Salaaam

(Oct 31 '13 at 14:47) sadie ♦ sadie's gravatar image

Sadie did you get my message?

(Oct 31 '13 at 15:23) Bibi Amina ♦ Bibi%20Amina's gravatar image

Brother Yaqin,from the hadith relating to a companion of the Prophet who performed Ruqyah (found in Al-Bukharee and Muslim) and was paid for it with a flock of sheep, it is indicative that charging a payment is acceptable. But, it is also important to note from the same hadith that the chief of the Arab tribe was healed first. Thus, the payment amount should be agreed upon before proceeding with the healing.Salaam

(Nov 01 '13 at 04:53) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

faisal, will you accept american money? and if so, can you reverse a curse put on me by a muslim (who shall remain nameless, unless of course knowing his name will help or reduce my fee) who implored allah to do some sort of harm to me and my family. not sure what my family ever did, but hey, cast a wide net, right?

(Nov 01 '13 at 14:59) mikejm mikejm's gravatar image

Mike in the quran when Allah had instructed the Rasul to tell the people of the book that didn't believe He told the Rasulsaws to gather his family and to tell them to gather their family and pray for the curse of Allah on the one that is wrong. So this is how the family of you and I got involved. And that brother cant remove anything accept by Allah permission

(Nov 01 '13 at 15:45) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image
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Ruqya is permissable only by the use of the Quran,and Prophetic recitations. The use of cloths, inks and water etc, as in sourcery are considered shirk. These stray from the path. The Prophet ,pbuh, said there is no harm.( in using ruqya)

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@stronghold you are aware that they are two opinions on this topic? What about the hadith that is reported in bukhari also that states, learn the quran and implement it donot make your lively hood from it. Doesnt this apply and what about the hadith about the 70 that will go straight to paradise and one reason being they did not ask for ruqyah from anyone. and I can go on and on, but I will wait for your response. Salaam

(Nov 01 '13 at 15:40) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

I will have a look at all of these. Thanks, brother for guiding. Salaam

(Nov 01 '13 at 17:31) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image
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Yes brother, I came across this hadith and it states that the one who asks for ruqyah from others is not included in that seventy thousand who will enter Paradise without being brought to account, due to the shortfall in their trust in Allah. This is because asking for ruqyah involves a need for a raaqi and part of complete trust and Tawheed is that the Muslim should not ask people for anything.

(Nov 02 '13 at 04:30) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

Ibn Al-Qayyim (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

"That is because these people will enter Paradise without being called to account because of the perfection of their Tawheed, therefore he described them as people who did not ask others to perform ruqyah for them. Hence he said “and they put their trust in their Lord.”

(Nov 02 '13 at 04:30) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

(continuation of quote):Because of their complete trust in their Lord, their contentment with Him, their faith in Him, their being pleased with Him and their seeking their needs from Him, they do not ask people for anything, be it ruqyah or anything else, and they are not influenced by omens and superstitions that could prevent them from doing what they want to do, because superstition detracts from and weakens Tawheed."

(Nov 02 '13 at 04:31) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

Brother, I could not locate the Bukhari hadith that states, 'learn the quran and implement it do not make your lively hood from it'. I am sure it is there and I would like you to provide a link that would lead me to it. Salaam brother.

(Nov 02 '13 at 04:35) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

@stronghold inshallah I will provide you with the volume it is in, for I don't deal with links on the computor. Al hamdulilah you have qouted the athar from shaykh Qayyim, now please explain to me what exactly is he saying? Give me a minute to locate the hadith and the quran says the same not to sell the ayahs for a miserable price. Tawakkul Allah rely on Allah. Salaam

(Nov 02 '13 at 05:58) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Shaykh Ibn Al-Qayyim is stating that Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala is most sufficient for all of us and that we should have complete and total trust in Him and know that when we turn to Him with sincerity and open heart, He will hear our duaas and provide relief and protection from that which is afflicting us. Our prophet Rasulullah sallallahu alaihi wasallam did just that by reciting surahs from the Quran and blowing in his hands and then rubbing the afflicted part of the body. Salaam

(Nov 02 '13 at 06:22) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

@stronghold al hamdulilah I thankyou for the haqq you have presented,and what you said is the truth about what the Rasul saws did. I see all of the different catergories this practice are broken into but I need to ask who broke it into these aspects? Can you give me the haqq on my question? Salaam

(Nov 02 '13 at 10:32) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Brother, I have been reading up on the Shaykh Ibn Al-Qayyim and his amazing journey in life. He was an excellent student and disciple of the great Muslim scholar Imam Taqiyyu-Deen Ahmad Ibn Taimiyyah and sadly, both were imprisoned for a term. Upon the death of Imam Ibn Taimiyyah, the disciples were set free from prison and Imam Ibn al-Qayyim al-Jawziyya furthered his studies.Learnt alot. Will now look for who broke down the practices...so much to learn, alhamdilollah

(Nov 03 '13 at 01:42) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

@stronghold IbnQayyim is one of my favorite shaykhs and he has sound knowledge on numerous subjects, imbglad to see that you took the time to investagate about the one you are accepting some haqq from. What disturbs me about this practice is that man goes to man and ask of him to release him from the qadr of Allah. If one has enough sense to ask of man, why not just ask of Allah. Do what the Rasul saws has done follow that example.In Islam is the blessing in doing what is permissible or what is better?

(Nov 03 '13 at 01:42) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image
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I agree with you wholeheartedly. The amazing fact is that Allah is there for us, all we need to do is turn to Him. It is that simple. This IS the beauty of Islam. Some say Islam is complicated but I say, those who say this don't know it enough. It is all based on common sense ONCE we understand it.

(Nov 03 '13 at 02:00) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image
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Guys and girls people do not charge for ruqya or teaching islam. People charge for their time.its very simple. Why are we all so hooked up on this.If someone did ruqya all day for free..how is he gna make a living and provide for his family?? What I struggle to understand is why are we so willing to pay for the world but not willing to pay for the Aakhirah?? The moment someone says brother it will cost you this much for ruqya or quran lesson we go mad n start quoting. But when it comes to paying for private academic lessons or buying a disgustingly expensive car we jump on it. I mean cmon is that right? ??

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@Faisal, beloved I understand your position but what I said to our brother stronghold did not come from me it what the Rasul saws has said not to do. Though understand your piint we must take what the Rasul saws has given us and refrain from what he has told us to refrain from. Salaam

(Nov 01 '13 at 18:30) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Regarding the hadith on Ruqya,

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle said, 'Nations were displayed before me; one or two prophets would pass by along with a few followers. A prophet would pass by accompanied by nobody. Then a big crowd of people passed in front of me and I asked, Who are they Are they my followers?" It was said, 'No. It is Moses and his followers It was said to me, 'Look at the horizon.'' Behold! There was a multitude of people filling the horizon. Then it was said to me, 'Look there and there about the stretching sky! Behold! There was a multitude filling the horizon,' It was said to me, 'This is your nation out of whom seventy thousand shall enter Paradise without reckoning.' "Then the Prophet entered his house without telling his companions who they (the 70,000) were. So the people started talking about the issue and said, "It is we who have believed in Allah and followed His Apostle; therefore those people are either ourselves or our children who are born m the Islamic era, for we were born in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance.'' When the Prophet heard of that, he came out and said. "Those people are those who do not treat themselves with Ruqya, nor do they believe in bad or good omen (from birds etc.) nor do they get themselves branded (Cauterized). but they put their trust (only) in their Lord " On that 'Ukasha bin Muhsin said. "Am I one of them, O Allah's Apostle?' The Prophet said, "Yes." Then another person got up and said, "Am I one of them?" The Prophet said, 'Ukasha has anticipated you." (Book #71, Hadith #606)

Regarding any hadiths in Bukhari, about selling quranic knowledge,these are all i could find,

Narrated Ubaidullah: Ibn 'Abbas said, "Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!" (Book #92, Hadith #461)Bukhari

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "There will be three types of people whom Allah will neither speak to them on the Day of Resurrection nor will purify them from sins, and they will have a painful punishment: They are, (1) a man possessed superfluous water (more than he needs) on a way and he withholds it from the travelers. (2) a man who gives a pledge of allegiance to an Imam (ruler) and gives it only for worldly benefits, if the Imam gives him what he wants, he abides by his pledge, otherwise he does not fulfill his pledge; (3) and a man who sells something to another man after the 'Asr prayer and swears by Allah (a false oath) that he has been offered so much for it whereupon the buyer believes him and buys it although in fact, the seller has not been offered such a price." (See Hadith No. 838, Vol. 3) (Book #89, Hadith #319)

As regarding the Quran itself,

It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to Allah's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers. Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #44)

As for those who sell the faith they owe to Allah and their own plighted word for a small price, they shall have no portion in the Hereafter: Nor will Allah (Deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleans them (of sin): They shall have a grievous penalty. Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #77)

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yeah i never get that capitalized We? so muhammad revealed the ten commandments to moses?

(Nov 02 '13 at 09:12) mikejm mikejm's gravatar image

@abyadgirl this is excellent research, and I thankyou for it, may Allah reward you and grant you and your family paradise. Now please help me out with the question I just asked stronghold. Salaam

(Nov 02 '13 at 10:39) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

@yaqin
Al-qayyim, wrote the book, Al-Tibbs al Nabawiya, concerning prophetic medicines, the treatments, and the diversity of treatments and their ethical concerns. Al- Suynti, also contributed and split the prophetic medicines into 3 types, traditional,spiritual and preventative, that is to say---( dietry, regimen,and exercise)

Also notable writers of this era, were Ibn Talun and Al- Dhahabi,but i have not checked these guys out yet.

(Nov 02 '13 at 15:22) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

@abyadgirl again great research and may Allah reward you for this and I respect all of the scholars and their work, but I must ask you did the Rasul saws break this down in any aspect? I humbly await your response. Salaam

(Nov 02 '13 at 16:05) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

@yaqin, well I would think so, as there are differences on treatments and Muhammad saw, was very wise in this department. Also a vast majority of Hadiths are based on medicanal help and treatments. He would of known the differences between physical and mental, that is the bodys response to harm by our own doing, and the mental and physical response to Jinn etc.

(Nov 02 '13 at 16:13) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

Also abyadgirl which one of the brothers you mentioned is of the salaf or the tabioon or at tabioon? And did any of the said above mentioned break this concept down in any aspect? Salaam

(Nov 02 '13 at 16:14) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Al Quayyim, of the salaf, tabloon, not aware of.??? The only aspects of breaking down is the division of the 2 types of ruqya, Hijamah itself is broken down into various fields, as the holistic medicines of today. Just not sure exactly what you want breaking down yaqin, as before i can only assess that the acts of medicine, including ruqya are already mentioned,other than Al suyuti broke the compounds down into 3 catogories.

(Nov 02 '13 at 16:25) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

@abyadgirl what I'm talking about is the quranic ayah or hadith that breaks this concept down as done. None of those mentioned are of the salaf or the ones after them or the ones after them. All the scholars you mentioned are of the kalaf. You are correct when you say there are many hadiths that deal with this subject,but none has this concept promoted today. Where is the hadit or ayah that supports the use of a raqi. I know of the sheep but you yourself have pointedout the ayah that refutes this hadith. Now please revisit my questions and ponder what I'm asking I will humbly await your reply.

(Nov 02 '13 at 18:01) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet ordered me or somebody else to do ruqya (if there was danger) from an evil eye. (Book #71, Hadith #634)Bukhari

Narrated Um Salama: that the Prophet saw in her house a girl whose face had a black spot. He said. "She is under the effect of an evil eye; so treat her with a ruqya." (Book #71, Hadith #635)Bukhari

There are several other Hadiths too, on this subject. I have no knowledge on Al Quayyim, just the books on medicines, but i will look more into this man. I found a website,,,,http://www.tibbenabawi.org and some limited info elsewhere.Thanks yquin.

(Nov 03 '13 at 02:39) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

@abyadgirl, lets get to the bottomline alot of those hadiths on this subject contradicts the hadith when the Rasul says don't ask of anyone for anything only ask of Allah. The ruling on this topic is that its permissible but it is best not to do it. Now what the scholars is talking about is the use of a raqi. True as you have said that there are numerous hadith on this practice, and I understand one doing as the Rasul saws has done, meaning do it yourself for all healing comes from Allah. The requirements or the concept that one uses to authenticate a raqi is bidah for our prophet never

(Nov 03 '13 at 12:08) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

leglistrated this breakdown as you have pointedout that the scholars you mentioned are the ones who done this. The hadith states that to only use ruqyah for evil eye and fever. One of the temptations the shaytans uses is that he suggest that we do something that is permissible thus keeping us from that which is better. Salaam

(Nov 03 '13 at 12:29) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

what's up yaqin? sorry to interupt your great discussion on magic, but i was wondering do you have an opinion on who is the slow learner here. is it me? or whoever keeps suspending me? here's a book on the "evil eye". lol. http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=50&translator=4

(Nov 03 '13 at 12:53) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image
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Mike what planet r u on, your either completely ignorant or just love taking the mick?

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i'm on earth. i'm in america, tampabay, florida. i am ignorant of much, fo sho. for instance i have no idea what "taking the mick" means? i love to kidnap irish people?

anyway, yaqin has cursed me and my family. you seem to claim some knowledge in removing black magic. would this come under that catagory? or because he has asked allah to curse me, am i doomed?

dude, i'm SO SCARED, PLEASE HELP.

(Nov 02 '13 at 11:57) mikejm mikejm's gravatar image

I think in america they say "stop taking the mikey". Listen my friend. Calm your ignorance. Go to a mousqe where you and tell them you would like to be educated about islam n its principles. Hopefully you will learn alot more than what your learning from a forum.

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most be a northern saying, never heard it before. thanks, my ignorance is pretty calm. that was sarcasm. yaqin's curse doesn't worry me. in fact it makes me laugh. and i wouldn't pay you one red cent for your "magic cures". in fact i think you should be ashamed of yourself, playing on uneducated, supersticious people's fears. yet my account is "permenantly suspended". lmfao.

i was at a mosque friday. no mentions of black magic or ruqya. but i'll be sure to ask next time.

(Nov 02 '13 at 16:41) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

Yaqin. If someone has trust in Allah and does ruqyah because the prophet himself did it whats the harm

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HAHAHAHA ur a funy guy mike.

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thanks i get that alot.

(Nov 03 '13 at 12:07) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

Need to come calafornia one day and come meet you. You can share your ignorance with me. Only Only joking mike. Don't get banned again!

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i'm in florida dude. california is on the other side of the continent. but i do have a buddy in sand deigo. so if you ever do make it to southern cali i'll come see ya.

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