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Why "Same-Sex Marriage" is not allowed in Islam? Volunteers, please include a Quranic reference, or at least, use textual evidence from Hadiths.

Thanks.

asked 577 Anakata's gravatar image
closed Nov 07 '13 at 07:42 Irfan Alam ♦ 1.0k1935 Irfan%20Alam's gravatar image

Irfan, brother, please stop interfering with my question. I shall pick the answer that suits my desire, not you.

(Nov 07 '13 at 21:00) Anakata Anakata's gravatar image

You are following the WEBSITE rules, not the ISLAMIC rules.

(Nov 07 '13 at 21:00) Anakata Anakata's gravatar image

The question has been closed for the following reason "The question is answered, right answer was accepted" by Irfan Alam Nov 07 '13 at 07:42

0 AssalamuAlaikum

Thank you for your question dear brother.

Im glad you asked for textual proofs in your question as well.

This question reflects the amount of corruption, indecency and evil that is unfortunately acceptable and normal in the Western world which has sadly also affected the Muslim world.

How on earth can these people accept the shameless actions of homosexual and not only that, legalise it, normalise it, and protect it by law?? Even in their society, this was unthinkable some years back.

In Islam, just because someone has certain thoughts doesn't make it allright for him to proceed with such thoughts. An angry man who has the thought of killing his mother isn't justified in his actions because he was feeling a certain way in that time. This is exactly one of the arguments that they use to justify this sin and go against any opposition.

For non-Muslims who oppose the Islamic law, stating that homosexual acts is acceptable because its consensual and has no harm, we flatly refuse your justification. In Islam, right and wrong isn't determined by what's consensual but what Allah commands.

As for textual evidence, please see http://www.islamqa.com/en/search?key=homosexual&yt0=search

You can read about the story of the people of Lut (alaihis salam), the Prophet who was sent to the people who practised this shameful sin in the Quran.

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answered 2805 UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

The answer I was expecting. Thank you, brother.

(Nov 06 '13 at 23:24) Anakata Anakata's gravatar image

"For non-Muslims who oppose the Islamic law, stating that homosexual acts is acceptable because its consensual and has no harm, we flatly refuse your justification." this is why i laugh every time i read "and they use not their reason" in the koran. so islam accuses us of being concealers of the truth. an they are the enlightened ones? priceless.

"In Islam, right and wrong isn't determined by what's consensual but what Allah commands." well there you go irfan has spoken.

the fascist nature of islam on display again. zeig heil.

(Nov 07 '13 at 10:53) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

Islam is a religion of using the intellect.As Muslims we believe the intellect is from God. The Quran we believe is also from God.As a result it is impossible for them to conflict.

For non Muslims, the Quran can easily be proven by logic to be from God (for example see http://www.allahsquran.com/authenticity_of_the_quran.php) and for Muslims who have already realized this, following it is logical as Allah is the Most Wise.

If something in Islam appear go against logic, this is not the really case.He may not be using logic properly or taking other factors into consideration or isbiased,etc.

(Nov 07 '13 at 18:19) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

"If something in Islam appear go against logic, this is not the really case." no clearly that is the case. if you say that a murderer may go free if he pays blood money to the dead persons family. and that is justice. but if two consenting adults are having sexual relations, justice demands they die. that is not logic.

no doubt i'm biased, biased in favor of logic. so what other factors need to be considered?

(Nov 07 '13 at 19:15) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

Many other factors. If I told some, you will inshaAllah think (within yourself) 'OMG I never thought of that! This actually makes sense' But even if you recognize every single teaching of Islam to be more logical than any other human propositions that will not give you peace or grant you paradise.

If you realize Islam to be truly from God, and I think after all this time this idea has indeed come to you, I hope you willing to change your stance and accept it. You will find a peace the instant you say the shahadah that you have never felt before.

(Nov 07 '13 at 19:30) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

Anyways you can find the answers to some of these questions in the book Contemporary Issues by the celebrated Scholar Dr. Bilal Philips. Dr. Bilal Philips has contributed hugely to the English speaking resources on Islam. The book can be downloaded for free here http://www.kalamullah.com/Books/Contemporary_Issues.pdf

(Nov 07 '13 at 19:32) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

Brother umar that is a excellent book. Salaam

(Nov 07 '13 at 20:58) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image
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Asalaam o alaikum, Brother, Islam prohibits Homosexuality, and there are numerous verses in the Quran and Hadiths available, that state this fact. There are five references in the Qur'an which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some obviously deal with effeminate men and "masculine women." The two main references to homosexual behavior are:

"We also sent Lut : He said to his people : "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." Qur'an 7:80-81

"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk." Qur'an 26:16

Two others as mentioned, are,

"Of all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!"(chp26 v165-166)

Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather than women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant! (chp27 v55)

And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever) committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off the highway?- and practise wickedness (even) in your councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they said: "Bring us the Wrath of God if thou tellest the truth.(chp 29 v28-29)

The Hadith and homosexuality: Many Hadiths discuss liwat (sexual intercourse between males). Two examples are:

"When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes."

"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to." (in reference to the active and passive partners)

Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The Prophet (saws) said: A man should not look at the private parts of another man, and a woman should not look at the private parts of another woman. A man should not lie with another man without wearing lower garment under one cover; and a woman should not be lie with another woman without wearing lower garment under one cover. (Abu Dawood)

Narrated AbuHurayrah: The Prophet (saws) said: A man should not lie with another man and a woman should not lie with another woman without covering their private parts except a child or a father. He also mentioned a third thing which I forgot. (Abu Dawood)

There is at least one mention of lesbian behavior mentioned in the Hadith: "Sihaq (lesbian activity) of women is zina among them."

InshaAllah this helps.

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answered 3387 abyadgirl's gravatar image
edited Nov 07 '13 at 04:50

This is a very difficult & challenging topic to comment about unless you have walked the mans path of understanding in what is regarded & stated by you as shameful actions that are sinful in Islam and under the Prophets universal law of treating our brothers and sisters equally we learn abidance and discipline of our willful actions without the need to act or rebel against homosexuality in violence against your brother or sister.

What understanding may we have not reached within our fathers will to not be able to peacefully and gracefully in the name of the prophet be led a straight path shown to us by the understanding of having the homosexuals disarray along his path to enlightenment. It is a great test we all equally learn of abidance and discipline of our will to make the rightful choice accordingly to gods spoken word.

So no doubt a dilemma in our Islamic society with a recent surge of doubtfully focusing on ones own will rather than our fathers collective will in his name they spoke of his will, Gods will as they did to reach enlightenment.

I therefore think the core issue underlines in social education from child hood to maturity or should i say the lack of it. Healthy Views must be communicated & understood to be apart of our integral society with the fundamental individual beliefs becoming a journey of experiences understood to reach ones soul of enlightenment. The concept is one and the paths are many but when our selfish beliefs without any disregard of others it will end in violence & misunderstanding.

I am not suggesting to implement Islam and its integration into society by a form of core set of individual or collective beliefs destined to failure for you cannot tell man who god is and your set of beliefs around this, man must find god himself.

Islam is a religion that enlightens the core soul of an individual and infinite love for itself, surroundings and creator in all humbleness. For this message to be integrated among est societies & implemented only once the understanding has been reached Islam will require lot of patients to withstand events such as homosexuality.

I found this topic challenging to comment on and discuss and it frustrates me Islam is unable to find a balance for an integrated approach to re educate society such that they can socially integrate their own values and find their true purpose in life easier.

I am a Muslim myself by origin but for many reasons that incorporated Islamic teachings with the wrong applied approach of Islamic Ideology i have found my life's answers else where but however do not totally reject Islam simply the many methods it is taught by will not communicate an understanding to the souls journey upon enlightenment.

I believe in equality that praises patients and a nonjudgmental approach of communicating to that what should be an exciting path of learning to god. Islam caters for this approach if the right people facilitate this.

I thank you for letting me share this information and hope it is beneficial, i also look forward to your educated comments regarding my approach.

Rami.H

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answered 10 Raman_82's gravatar image

May the peace and blessings of Allah be upon you, brother. Thank you for your comments and thank you for being frank with us. Can you please tell me in simpler words what you meant as I might not have understood it properly.

You mention doing God's will rather than our own will. This is exactly the teaching of Islam as you know and this is taught in the Quran. I swear to you brother by Allah that the Quran was sent down by God to our Prophet ( sallallahu alaihi wasaam) to lead mankind from darkness to light as the final revelation to mankind, confirming the earlier books of God.

(Nov 07 '13 at 07:37) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

Beloved I read your words and frankly it seems that you are suggesting to compromise for the sake of enlightenment. Beloved there is no enlightenment or guidance for those that choose to follow their own vain desires. You said if the right people facilitate this, the right person have done this and we must follow his example only, for Allah azza wal jall has completed his favor on mankind and perfected his Deen through one man, Prophet Muhammad. The only enlightment for mankind is in his example. You say you have found your lifes answers elsewhere, and by you using the term our father I can

(Nov 07 '13 at 10:28) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

assume that you have adopted someway which takes you outside the folds of islam, which makes you a kufar by definition. This topic Allah has decreed already to His Rasul saws and we have no say so in the matter, read sura 33:36, it is that simple. Please don't take my words harshly, for that is not my intent, but I must be stern when I see something that may lead my fellow believers outside the folds of islam. Allah has warned us about dazzling speech, no matter how dazzling, it is not the haqq, and it must be rejected. Forgive me if you are offended. Salaam

(Nov 07 '13 at 10:41) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

so what is the hadd punishment for homosexual acts?

(Nov 07 '13 at 10:56) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

Mike don't start if you read the whole post the sister qouted the hudood for this abomination. Salaam

(Nov 07 '13 at 10:59) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

my bad didn't read her post. i see it now, thanks ""Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to." (in reference to the active and passive partners)" so the hadith that says three people are to be put to death, the murderer, adulterer and apostate is incomplete? so a murderer can pay blood money to the family of the victim and walk away free? but two lesbians or gays consenting to engage in an act which causes no harm to anyone get put to death? can they give each other "blood money". and you call this justice? roflmao. Forgive me if you are offended. Salaam

(Nov 07 '13 at 11:06) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

Mike you are funny, no the hadith is not incomplete, it was said at a specific time dealing with a specific matter. What you call harmless is an abomination to The One who created us., you and your liberal kufar system don't mean anything. You see no harm for you are upon misguidance and what you deem as justice is definitly injustice. But from you I expect nothing less. I know you are not offended. Onething I can say about you is that your skin is tough but it is not fireproof. The hellfire will penertrate. Salaam

(Nov 07 '13 at 11:18) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

don't worry, i got asbestos underwear. and of course i'm not offended. i'll take it as a badge of honor to be called unjust by anyone who believes justice is served by death. anyway i copy and pasted your "forgive me if you..." because i figured that means the person can't take offence. and my mockery has already offended umar i think. so i thought that if i put that at the end of all comments it absolves me of giving offence. i guess the jury is still out on whether rami is offended or not by being called kufar.

Forgive me if you are offended. Salaam

(Nov 07 '13 at 11:39) mikejm2 mikejm2's gravatar image

I guess you are right mike.

(Nov 07 '13 at 11:51) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image
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