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(3) Narrated Ibn Muhairiz: I entered the Mosque and saw Abu Said Al-Khudri and sat beside him and asked him about Al-Azl (i.e. coitus interruptus). Abu Said said, "We went out with Allah's Apostle for the Ghazwa of Banu Al-Mustaliq and we received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus. So when we intended to do coitus interrupt us, we said, 'How can we do coitus interruptus before asking Allah's Apostle who is present among us?" We asked (him) about it and he said, 'It is better for you not to do so, for if any soul (till the Day of Resurrection) is predestined to exist, it will exist." (Book #59, Hadith #459)

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No rape isn't allowed. Those men were under Mut'ah marriage . Mike put your boots on and do the research.9from reliable sources). Do remember that in order for Any Hadith to be Authentic it has to coincide With the Qur'an.

(Nov 17 '13 at 03:52) sadie ♦ sadie's gravatar image

so isn't a reliable source? so is this hadith authentic? i don't follow. you say it is temporary marriage and i'm assuming therefore allowed. then you bring up coinciding with the koran? so does the hadith were the two guys approach a woman and offer her their coats for temporary marriage and she takes the lesser coat from the better looking guy, coincide with the koran?

so is it standard procedure to sell your "wife" after your temporary marriage.

so what source do you think is reliable? were do you read your hadiths?

(Nov 17 '13 at 08:24) mikejm3 mikejm3's gravatar image

is shaykh muhammad al-munajjid a reliable source. i hope not.

(Nov 17 '13 at 08:48) mikejm3 mikejm3's gravatar image

He is a wahabi scholar and does not follow madhab and is not amongst ahle sunnah scholar... For Wahabis he is reliable for others he is not.....

(Dec 10 '13 at 13:29) Ahmadomar Ahmadomar's gravatar image

Another thing is that temporary marriage{Muta'a} was allowed in initial days of Islam but later prohibited by the Prophet Peace be upon him as the hadeeth from Sahih Bukhari narrated by Imam Ali says : " On the day of Khaibar Prophet Peace be upon him prohibited two things, "1.Eating of the flesh of [domesticated] ass and 2. Temporary Marriage[Muta'a].... So you can see , something halal was made prohibited later on.... Why temporary marriage was halaal in the initial days of islam was a different topic ? Allah knows best

(Dec 10 '13 at 13:33) Ahmadomar Ahmadomar's gravatar image

you sure? i thought he was a salaf and followed the hanbali school, or is it hanafi they follow? one of the Hs? sharia is one big topic to me. and there are people here who say temporary marriage is still allowed and that your hadith is "unreliable".

(Dec 11 '13 at 10:12) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image
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Slavery system is abolished in Islam so now sex with only spouse is permitted. As far as coitus interuptus is concerned , it can be practiced but RasoolAllah {Peace and blessings be upon him) disliked this practice as it is proven from the hadeeth of Ibn Masud in Sunan Abu dawood..... 34. Signet−Rings (Kitab Al−Khatam) Book 34, Number 4210: Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud: The Prophet of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) DISLIKED ten things: Yellow colouring,meaning khaluq, dyeing grey hair, trailing the lower garment, wearing a gold signet−ring, a woman decking herself before people who are not within the prohibited degrees, throwing dice, using spells except with the Mu'awwidhatan, wearing amulets,WITHDRAWING THE PENIS BEFORE THE SEMEN IS DISCHARGED [I.E. COITUS INTERRUPTUS], in the case of a woman who is wife or not a wife, and having intercourse with a woman who is suckling a child; BUT HE DID NOT DECLARE THEM TO BE PROHIBITED

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so back then you could make your captive women concubines?

who in islam abolished slavery? would that not be innovation (bidah) that is not allowed? is it not haram to make what is halal, haram?

(Dec 10 '13 at 12:08) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Yes back then captive women can be made concubines and Prophet(peace be upon him)too have concubine Maria Qibtiya[Whom Prophet married later]and her sister Ibn Sirin was the concubine of Hassaan bin Thabit[Radiallaho anhu]. Slavery is not an injuction of islam but it exist before and Islam have given us the teaching to abolish this system and hence it is not Bidah as it was not an injunction of Islam and hence abolition of something which is merely a culture and not injuction is permissible. For more info. in slavery system watch the following video:

(Dec 10 '13 at 13:28) Ahmadomar Ahmadomar's gravatar image

sorry, i only have 5 minutes so i'll watch your video tomorrow. but you are saying that god didn't have the power to abolish slavery with his last prophet, in the time of the last prophet?

why didn't god tell his earlier prophets not to enslave people. instead he encouraged them.

monotheism is not an "injunction" of islam, it existed before. so can it be eliminated as a cultural aspect to society? the koran has multiple reverances to slaves and their position in society. were does it call for abolition?

(Dec 10 '13 at 17:15) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

If you will lsten to the video with open mind then it will get clear...... I have not said that God is powerless to do anything as it constitute kufr. Monotheism is a belief of All Prophets and therefore it is an injuction of all religion and it is not amongst the custom hence it cant be abolished. As far as your q2 and 4 is concern , its answer can be found from the video....

(Dec 10 '13 at 18:06) Ahmadomar Ahmadomar's gravatar image

yes it is allowed and some women will want this if they want to take semen from other man to fall pregnant

(Dec 10 '13 at 18:46) lindashoapa lindashoapa's gravatar image

Sex with slave is not allowed but Coitus interruptus is ALLOWED BUT DISLIKED.....

(Dec 11 '13 at 10:01) Ahmadomar Ahmadomar's gravatar image

not all religions are monotheistic, nor are all cultures. not even amoung the abrahamic are "All Prophets" agreed upon. but it was allowed by muhammad at this time?

linda, did you mean to say "if they [don't] want to take semen"?? but i think you missed the situation of the story totally. the men don't want to get their war booty pregnant, because then they can't ransom them back to the tribe they took them from. see they captured women from the banu al-mustaliq. so do you imagine these women agreed to a temporary marriage to the men who just killed their husband, brothers and fathers?

(Dec 11 '13 at 10:27) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

" See they captured women from the banu al-mustaliq. so do you imagine these women agreed to a temporary marriage to the men who just killed their husband, brothers and fathers?".. Are you a muslim ? seriously ? I mean the way you are arguing , I have seen Islamophobic group arguing like this in the past..... You are completely misxing cultural prohibitions and religious injuction and trying to prove your point... I am sorry I cant argue with you as I follow the Islamic scholarly proof and all of them says that Slavery is not islamic injunction and therefore being abolished now. Peace

(Dec 11 '13 at 10:59) Ahmadomar Ahmadomar's gravatar image

no i'm not a muslim. yes i'm missing your seperation of culture and religion. is not your religion the main force within your culture? so did muhammad abolish slavery? obviously not. is muhammad not the "last prophet" in islam? is not islam based on the koran, which didn't abolish slavery and the hadith which very much endorsed slavery (as we see above)? thusly, slavery is allowed in islam, right? no other conclusion to draw.

you do know saudi arabia had a slave market until 1962. maurtinura (and there are still many slaves there) didn't outlaw slavery until 1980 or 81? peace.

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