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Did the Rasul saws use this symbol to represent islam? Show textual proof please.

asked 8331145 yaqin's gravatar image

No it is not sunnah. This crescent came from the Ottoman (turkish) caliphate period as far as I know, and Allah knows best.

(Dec 03 '13 at 03:33) IbnFaruque IbnFaruque's gravatar image

Asalaam o alaikum, I beleive Mohammad only used the solid coloured flags, be they black, green or white, for identification purposes, whilst travelling in armies, or in caravans. The crescent and star symbol was later used by The Ottoman Empire, but prior to Islamic reign, the star crescent and sun symbols were used by various Empires, denoting other dieties of worship other than Allah.

BUT What is the relation between Islam and the crescent moon? his eminence Sheikh Al-Karadawy answered saying: there is no relation at all between the Islam and the crescent moon


The number of quran verses speaking about the crescent and the moon are 50 verses

The number of converses speaking about the crescent and the moon are 2027 converses

About the moon We can see that Allah (God) was swearing by the moon as in: The One Enveloped chapter (Surat Al-Muddathir) 32, 33:" by the moon, And by the night when it withdraws" The Sun chapter (Surat Ash-Shams) 1.2:" by the sun and its brightness, And by the moon as it follows it"

In the Islamic encyclopedia , part 32, page 10055:" the crescent has a great importance in the Islamic legislations" the encyclopedia showed 55 proofs for that , for example ;the Hijri calendar depends on the crescent, also the fasting of Ramadan and the time of pilgrimage (Hajj )all are related to the crescent

In the cow chapter (Surat Al-Baqarah) 189:"They ask you, about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage" The crescent as a symbol of Islam: - The crescent was put on the coins at the time of Salah Al-din Al-Ayouby - It was present in the dome of Kobat Al-Sakhra mosque - It was put on the earrings and ornaments for human - It was the symbol for the Muslim leaders throughout history - In the fifth Hijri century, in Anne church in Europe, that was transformed to a mosque they replace the cross present over it by the crescent as an Islamic symbol - The crescent had been put over the dooms of mosques - The crescent was the official symbol in the othmanian nation - The crescent had been put in the national flag of many countries as Tunisia, Egypt, Algeria, Mauritania, Malaysia, Libya and Malawi - The crescent was the differentiating symbol between the graves for Muslims, and those for the Jewish and Christians

The secret behind that is: the crescent had a great importance in the ancient pre-Islam paganism epoch, as it was the symbol of the Moon God for the pagan The encyclopedias Britannica mentioned in part 1, page 1057and 1058:" the Arabs in the south of Arabic peninsula were worshiping the trinity of Al-lah the moon god, Al-lat the sun god , and their son Ashtar , and Al-lah was the greatest of that trinity " Dr Al-Kemny said in his book "the legendary in the quran", page 4-11:" among the names of Arabs' god was" kitth" that is translated as Al-lah, the lord of the sacred house, present in Makkah

From the archaeological studies of the Arabic peninsula, it was found that" Al-lah" the greatest was worshiped by the people in the Arabic peninsula, it was the moon god; the greatest of gods, there was a statue inside Al-Ka'bah for it The worshiped moon god was called Al-lah, and the word was abbreviated as Allah That was the attitude of Muhammad towards that great god "Allah the greatest" For that reason the korishians people were not surprised to hear Muhammad speaking about Allah, as they knew him and worshiped him and they had no reason to ask Muhammad about Allah ,as he was familiar to them, so Muhammad was raised in that culture worshiping the moon god Allah

As the greatest of all their gods, they called him Allah The greatest "Allah Akbar"

The moon was the god worshiped by people during the time of Muhammad, so he considered the crescent, the symbol of the worshiped moon god as his symbol As mentioned in history; Muhammad tried hardly to attract the Jewish and Christians but was unsuccessful in that, so he showed a great respect for the moon and Ka'bah and was performing all the pagan rituals , trying to please the pagan Dr Al-Kemny said I his book, page 11: Al-lah was the male moon god Al-lat was the female sun god Ashtar was their son, and its symbol is the star So beside the Islamic crescent there is a star near its lower end, representing Al-lah and his son Ashtar

Archaeologists discovered many temples for the moon god widely dispersed in the area from turkey till the Nile River The moon god was named by the Babylians. Ashurians and keldanian as the god "S" The scientists proved that the Sumerian people had the same god, The crescent symbol of the moon god was present in the prisons; they also made the bread with a crescent shape, as they were offering it to the god In the previous century they discovered a big temple for the moon god in Palestine in an area called Hazer, within it they found two statues for two men sitting on a throne with the crescent engraved over their chests

In the nineteen century, the archaeologists made many digging in Saba' and Kotban in the Arabic peninsula, they found many codices showing the moon god Thousands of fossils were discovered with the moon god symbol the crescent on them The question is why they are putting the crescent with the star over the mosques? In the quran in the prophet chapter, it said that Ibrahim removed the idols and Muhammad removed the idols from Al-Ka'bah

So using the crescent and the star; isn't that considered worshiping of idols?

This article ,where it mentions about Muhammad, please varify for me if it is true. I can not find textual proof at the moment , other than The Quran, which would not adopt the use of symbols as worship, but of signs only.

answered 3488 abyadgirl's gravatar image

Beloved sister this is excellent work may Allah reward you, this information about the Rasul is not right for he came and irraticated idology. True the name Allah was known before the coming of islam but everything that was attached to it he denounced. The moon and crescent is the symbol of the pagan god sin. What you stated in the beginning is the haqq. The Rasul never used this symbol and if one is using it it is shirk. Now with this understanding look around the muslim ummah and you will see this symbol of kufr being used as you have pointed out on masjids flags etc. The inconspicuous shirk

(Dec 01 '13 at 17:42) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

displayed for all to see is what our blessed Rasul saws was what afraid for his ummah, the Rasul described this shirk al khafi as a black ant on a black rock in the darkness of night, meaning you cant see it but it is there. so now I ask you beloved sister to answer my question. Is it the sunnah or not??? Salaam

(Dec 01 '13 at 17:50) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

No Yaqin, it is not sunnah to use the symbols. It would be shirk as you said. It is amazing in historical notes and articles written that try to blacken Islam, that they try to attribute nonsense, as i tried to show. Also this goes for the Shariah council, in their acts of punishments, which i find totally unacceptable. Innovation creeps in , as you say like the black ant on the black rock. I never even contemplated the use of the crescent and star till now. But i think people should be aware of non muslim findings to be able to combat these accusations.

(Dec 02 '13 at 04:19) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

I could never see Muhammad, saw, ever using a symbol, and if he did, surely he would of put it on his flags or banners. This is the first clue as to recognising the non usage, and the non need to have such symbols. It is certainly a need for past paganism to be ever present in our co called modern society. It is important that we should know where these symbols come from. Like your book Yaqin, most impressive and a must needed knowledge that all people should know about. The truth always out ways the falsifiers.

(Dec 02 '13 at 04:25) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

Abyadgirl and Yaqin, if it wasn't for your questions and answers, I too would never had been aware of this. How profound. And some don't think much of knowledge but here is another example of following shirk unknowingly, through lack of knowledge. May Allah reward you both. Salaam

(Dec 02 '13 at 05:32) stronghold ♦ stronghold's gravatar image

Ahh, the sad part is that it is so prevalent that right on this site it is at the top of the page the star is the dot for the letter I in islam. I seek refuge with Allah from that. It is things such as this that makes my heart heavy, and I find myself angry for it is clear that the powers that be have succumb to the waswas of our open enemy, for there are many people smarter than me and if I see it and Abyadgirl found the information and sees it clearly and from her sacrafice you brother see it. I know those smarter than us three see it also. So why is it still used? May Allah save us.. ameen

(Dec 02 '13 at 10:13) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

wow, that is what makes your heart heavy yaqin? a cresent moon and a star at the top of the page? not 14 year-old girls lashed to death in bangladesh for fornication? not women burried up to their waist and stoned to death? not people's heads being chopped off for "scorcery"? not the incessant bombings? not the constant cry of "apostate" (and the death that accompanies those cries) for those who don't believe as you do?

may god save us (from symbolism), amen. you sound like a patient who goes to the doctor with a rod through your head, but your concern is the scratch on your hand.

(Dec 02 '13 at 11:51) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

@mike you will never comprehend why my heart is heavy and symbolism is only a raindrop in the ocean of innovation which has crept into islam. Whatever is done unjustly in the name of islam crushes my heart. I'm not insensetive to the wrongs done under the banner of islam. What you need to understand is that it starts with misguidance then blossoms into barbaric acts I know that in the shariah many innovative practices have been implemented and no muslim can deny this especially when the fact of this simple symbolism is right before them and no one says nothing. No mike when I go to the doctor

(Dec 02 '13 at 12:14) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

there to address the problem not the scratch for that doesn't hurt it is the beam that hurts me. Thanks for your insight. Salaam

(Dec 02 '13 at 12:17) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

@yaqin, how ya been. long time no hear? right. part and parcel, the slippery slope, you can see the forest and the trees. if you don't practice right you won't play right in the big game. i was also hoping for some examples of symbols dividing the ummah. do the shia's use ali's sword with some seal over it? the white minirets of the ahmadi. don't the saudis have a sword on their flag, under the verse of the koran. the blade culture of muslims. i see they accidently cut one of their own guys head off in syria the other day. too much symbolism in the 12th verse of the 8th surah. anyway, good

(Dec 02 '13 at 12:29) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

to hear from ya. you have a good day boss man. peace.

(Dec 02 '13 at 12:30) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image
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Salam it is a nice and comprehensive explanation, Symbolism is a kind of idolatry and it known to everyone that it is prohibited from Islamic point of view. The Holy Kalma can be best alternate of symbols if it is necessary to use symbols.

answered 10 anisafatima's gravatar image

Wait, so why is it shirk to use these symbols? I was too busy so I just took a look and found the word shirk, I also didn't know about this matter that this was shirk but why? Can someone explain to me in simple form just in case someone in the future asks me about this.

answered 130318 omar's gravatar image

They are basically pagan symbols denoting worship of other Gods, such as God of the Moon, God of the Sun, etc etc.

(Dec 02 '13 at 15:39) abyadgirl abyadgirl's gravatar image

Reminding profits the believers. Salaam

(Mar 24 at 04:15) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Reminding profits the believers

(Jul 01 at 15:37) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image
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