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It is very wrong to mislead people only to make yourself feel better. You think Islam is worth supporting because all your peers are into it, because your family tradition is Islamic or because it was the first „comfort“ you found on your quest for God. This is not a willful deception. But it's still very wrong - and yes, very sad!

asked 106 Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

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My dear,

Thank you for your comments.

Islam is the religion which has evidence without doubts. It is the only religion with evidence to prove without doubt that it is from God.

Perhaps dear brother/sister, you may not know the whole story of the biography of the Prophet (peace be upon him). I would not expect you to and many Muslims have themselves never read/listened to a biography of the Prophet (peace be upon him). One thing that even non Muslims agree is that the Prophet seemed to be absolutely convinced of his role and responsibility as a Prophet and that he was completely sincere in his belief.

How can the Prophet (peace be upon him) have doubts when he himself was the Messenger of God? The first moments of confusion in the first revelation that I think you are referring to in your username does not compare to the rest of his life, where he continued to preach God's message with his blood, toil, and tears.

God revealed to His Prophet:

By the sky and the night comer –

And what can make you know what is the night comer?

It is the piercing star –

There is no soul but that it has over it a protector.

So let man observe from what he was created.

He was created from a fluid, ejected,

Emerging from between the backbone and the ribs.

Indeed, Allah, to return him [to life], is Able.

The Day when secrets will be put on trial,

Then man will have no power or any helper.

By the sky which returns [rain]

And [by] the earth which cracks open,

Indeed, the Qur’an is a decisive statement,

And it is not amusement.

Indeed, they are planning a plan,

But I am planning a plan.

So allow time for the disbelievers. Leave them awhile.

(Translation of the meanings of the Quran. Surah Tariq. Chapter 86)

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answered 1856 IbnFaruque's gravatar image

IbnFaruque, thanks for your friendly comments!

But I'm afraid I have to reply with the following: Islam is the only religion that doesn't need to be doubted?! Look, I think no people (and it's a small one!) has blessed this planet more than the Jews (I'm not Jewish, though). And the number of killings in the name of Allah cannot seriously be compared to the number of people killed by the other religions.

This is a unique situation we face today. So I really wanna be allowed to doubt this religion. But all I'm hearing is: doubt is sin! So you feel bad at first because of your doubts, and then you feel worse and worse because you know it's sin. That's not very helpful.

Also the self-referentiality of the Qur'an as well as the claim for Jerusalem, that's not mentioned in the text and that only evolved from 1967 on (no pilgrimage or any other interest before!) raises some questions, just to name a few other points.

(Tried to make a comment out of this, but it's too long, so it's here again. Hope that's fine.)

(Dec 23 '13 at 07:11) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

Comment done!

(Apr 27 at 20:54) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Hey Abdul you got a Facebook?

(Apr 29 at 18:05) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

Dear brother/sister, Ill quote a short piece from an article:

If we examine analytically the claim of anyone to Prophethood then there are three possibilities concerning such a claim.

The first possibility is that the individual is a liar.

The second possibility is that the individual sincerely believes he or she is receiving revelation, but is only suffering some form of delusion.

The third is that the individual really is receiving revelation, and is speaking the truth.

It is interesting to mention some of the arguments raised by the Christian and secularist Orientalists against Muhammad (peace be upon him) because taken as a whole they offer a conclusive proof in his favor.

One school of thought has suggested, in essence, that Muhammad was a liar and a fabricator; that he learnt from various rabbis and Christian priests, and during his various retreats to the Mountain of Light, composed the Quran. Some have tried to soften these accusations by claiming that he was motivated by a sincere desire to reform his people, and so invented Islam to achieve this. Others accuse him of more worldly interests and cite the large number of wives as a proof of this.

This approach has been rejected altogether by the second school, who upon observing the evidence of Muhammad's character which places him far above lying and deceit, and the reality of his life style which was a paragon of simplicity and even poverty. Having found no substantiating proof that he had any rabbi's or priests as teachers, and the complete acceptance of his claim by his close family and wives, to whom any duplicity would inevitably have been exposed, have claimed that he was totally sincere in his claim to prophethood, and that he truly believed that he was a prophet receiving revelation. They, also unable to accept the possibility that Muhammad truly was a Prophet, attempt various psycho-analytical explanations, such as the Quran being a voice of the subconscious, or the revelation being bought on by trances induced by epileptic fits. The basic claim being that Muhammad was deluded. We will not attempt to refute these accusations in detail here. The cursory examination of the opposing positions will suffice.

What makes this a conclusive proof in Muhammad's favor is that he could not be a calculating liar and be deluded at the same time. A man who sincerely believes that he is a Prophet, does not sit down thinking and planning what he will say the next day, because he believes that God is going to reveal it to him! Yet the opponents of Islam need both to explain the phenomena of Muhammad.

He needs to be a cunning and calculating deceiver in order to explain the information and linguistic inimitability of the Quran [and this does not suffice as no cunning or calculation can explain this], yet he needs to be deluded in order to explain his obvious sincerity. If one takes these two bodies of information together the only way to reconcile them is the third possibility, that he was indeed what he claimed to be - the Messenger of Allah.

Taken from the Article 'Authenticity of the Quran' by Sheikh Green (from UK):

Part 1: Ex Christian Proves Quran is True http://www.islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1959-ex-christian-proves-quran

Part 2: Message of the prophets http://www.islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1959-ex-christian-proves-quran?start=1

Part 3: Prophecies and Predictions [of the Prophet peace be upon him] http://www.islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1959-ex-christian-proves-quran?start=2

Part 4: Consequences http://www.islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1959-ex-christian-proves-quran?start=3

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answered 1856 IbnFaruque's gravatar image
edited Dec 22 '13 at 20:04

Dear Questioner,

Islam gives people the freedom to choose to believe or to disbelieve by acknowledging the free will that Almighty Allah has given us. Intelligence, by way of being able to think and reason, coupled with the free will which we all possess give us the freedom to CHOOSE.

This is clearly stated in the Holy Qur’an.

The Glorious Qur'an says,

"Let there be no compulsion in the religion: Surely the Right Path is clearly distinct from the crooked path." (Al Baqarah, 2:256).

"Those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe again, then disbelieve, and then increase in their disbelief - Allah will never forgive them nor guide them to the path." (Surah An-Nisa', 4:137).

"Let him who wishes to believe, do so; and let him who wishes to disbelieve, do so." (Al-Kahf: 29)

In another verse, Allah Almighty says:

"Yours is only the duty to convey the message; you are not a guardian over them." (Al-Ghashiyah: 21- 22)

For a believer, doubt is something that is from Shaitan but in spite of this the believer comes through stronger than before, with a firmer belief in the teachings of Islam. To question is to find your own truth and a believer is encouraged to seek knowledge of his/her deen.

Now your statement: “And the number of killings in the name of Allah cannot seriously be compared to the number of people killed by the other religions.” is an unfounded, misleading statement and it is borne of misconception based on the actions of those who are not of Islam.

Slaughtering, genocide killings and oppression is not a way of Islam, it is the way of those who wish to oppress and eradicate Islam and whenever possible, slander it to the core.

Islam is a system, established by Allah, verified by the Quran, manifested by the life of the Prophet and Islam is a peaceful way.

Islam is nothing other than itself, Islam, submission to Allah, and His legislation according to the rules of monotheism and surrendering to His Sharia to His Will without any reservation.

Let us just consider the last 200 years to establish who has carried out killing of innocent people.

These numbers will tell you who has been guilty of killings in the last 200 years.

The numbers are of the people who have been systematically attacked, slaughtered and destabilised or otherwise eliminated.

The invasion of South America by the Portuguese and Spanish conquistadors in the 18th century = 56 million people killed.

Christopher Columbus and his men enslaved native inhabitants of the West Indies, forced them to convert to Christianity, and subdued them with violence in an effort to seek riches= 89 million Indian people killed.

The The French came and along with the Dutch and added another 28 million killed.

Let’s not forget the triangular trading system or the slave trade, that operated from the late 16th to early 19th centuries, carrying slaves, cash crops, and manufactured goods between West Africa, Caribbean or American colonies and the European colonial powers, with the northern colonies of British North America, especially New England, sometimes taking over the role of Europe. For 400 years, they wilfully trafficked in human cargo and took out of Africa 180 million people like dogs and rats putting them in the bottoms of the ships, and keeping them there for the 3-4 months that it took to complete that triangle trade realising that only 23 out of each 100 would survive, making sure that the cost of those 23 slaves were payed for in the shipment. 70% of 180 million in the graveyard of the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean the survivors they delivered and enslaved.

We don’t even want to mention what they did inside the congo, inside the continent or in South Africa where they slaughtered or enslaved 39 million people. This is the apartheid world and the United Nation accepted it until about 12-13 years ago.

Then there are the Australian Aboriginals which the British attacked, killed and where following an Australian government edict in 1931, black Aboriginal children and children of mixed marriages were gathered up by whites and taken to settlements to be assimilated.

Then there are all the most recent happenings including Iraq and Bosnia where genocide took place right under the United Nation’s nose and what was done about it? Mass graves are still being discovered...

Are you adding just some of the numbers which I provided? You need to get your facts straight if you are going to make statements such as you made. May you be guided upon the truth as you have much to learn.

Salaam

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edited Apr 27 at 20:57 abdul_wasay ♦ 8638 abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Dear stronghold, So doubts are not sin? And you forgot the victims inside Europe! Centuries of war! Check that! But naming all victims of all past (government) wars, is a broad approach. We're not talking about Islam compared to the West! But about religions. In the very name of God Christians killed people in the Spanish inquisition and in the crusades (to name the most famos events). The Spanish mission by the way, known for its aggressiveness, proved not successful, because people only changed the outside, not their hearts. So I'm going to check your figures when I find the time for that.

(Dec 23 '13 at 10:12) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

And if you could give me the source of your figures that would be helpful.

(Dec 23 '13 at 10:14) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

Gentlemen,

With the numbers we've entered a very difficult field. Do we count the dead slaves as victims of Christians (even tough they always had a distant relation towards the government - Wilberforce and Livingstone, two key figures in ending the slave trade (in different places & times) were both devout Christians) or the Muslims (who were the wholesalers* and later they seem to have caused the death of more slaves than the "Christians" (http://necrometrics.com/wars19c.htm). And unlike the Muslims, the Christians didn't strive for political control. Jesus told them, that they'll always be few. Even in the US only around 20% go to church. 2% in France. That's very different with Islam. Islam can't be separated from worldly power and in Arab countries probably 80% do salat.

If you wanna go deeper, we really need to discuss the sources. Not just some figures that appeared out of nowhere that can in no way be attributed to Christianity. But what I've found by only searching quickly is a death toll that's 2-3 times higher for Islam than for Christianiy (Spanish Inquisition, Crusades): http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/onlinediscipleship/understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx. I've heard similar numbers before. And by the way: There were many Christians that travelled along the path of the Crusaders to ask the people there for forgiveness. They don't say: These were just radicals. They really feel responsible, even if they would never take part in a crusade!

But now, what is important: If I feel that Christianity sucks, no problem. I can quit. Maybe they'll call once or twice, but then I'm out. And if I have doubts, I can discuss them freely. I can read any book and make Muslim friends. We know that's different in Islam. And that's what I'd like to discuss here (but if you wanna go on with numbers and discuss the sources available: I'm ready for that, too).

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answered 106 Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

AssalamuAlaikum brother/sister,

AssalamuAlaikum brother Stronghold,

Asking questions is something good in Islam and a means by which one can get closer to Allah (Subhanahu wata Ala) and understand more about His religion. Thank you for your question and comments. May Allah guide you through the answers in this post. Ameen. Indeed He is the Almighty, the Most Merciful.

Your question is admittedly very deep! It may take some time to get one's head around it. You are asking if a believer in Islam is allowed to doubt his religion, but a believer by definition believes totally in Islam. So thats where the confusion comes in the question.

I think the words of the article (part 2 of the links above) will clear this question for you. Quote:


Along with this textual and contextual authenticity [see the article on this], the Quran itself lays down claims to prove its veracity as God's revealed Words. Of course, "proof" is a big word, especially when it comes to God or religion, especially for the "Western mind", programmed by two thousand years of Christianity, which seems to think that religion is supposed to be "mysterious" and "incomprehensible".

The idea that God and revelation are not only compatible with reason, but also can be proven, is often met with incredulity. After all, what's the point? If you can prove it where does faith come in? This is because the Christian world has been taught that "faith" means believing the unbelievable without any proof. This is manifest in that nonsense called the Trinity, and all the theological contortions surrounding it. Christians are expected to believe that black is white and yet still black, or in their terms, that the Invisible, Self-Sufficient, Un-Changing, Omnipotent and Omniscient Creator became a visible, needy, mortal, fallible creature who was killed on a cross, and this man was still the Invisible, Self-Sufficient, Un-Changing, Omnipotent and Omniscient Creator - completely God and completely man. Of course anyone with a mind will understand that one by necessity precludes the other.

Something completely God cannot possibly be, or contain the qualities of, a man, for this would immediately exclude such a being from being truly God. Furthermore, any man that had the qualities of God would no longer be a man. In an attempt to "explain the unexplainable" the Doctrine of the Trinity was invented: One God made of three entities, each one completely God, (and therefore completely the same, yet somehow different) not making three Gods but only One! Moreover the Christian has been asked to believe that mankind's salvation lies in believing God killed Himself (or His son, or an innocent man, or all three at the same time) as a ransom for a burden of sin - that He placed on all human beings for the sin of Adam and Eve eating from the forbidden tree!

The inevitable refuge of the Christian when assaulted with a barrage questions over this muddle is that its all "a mystery", and if you want to be saved from Hell you should stop asking so many questions and accept it as an act of faith. Yet it seems rather absurd that the Just Creator would punish anyone for refusing to believe things which are unacceptable and incomprehensible to the very faculties of reason and common sense that He has provided for the human to make their decisions, without providing some strong proof that they should do so!

The Quran, however, chastises mankind for not using their common sense and reasoning powers, and states that their failure to do so is itself a cause of their destruction:

"And for those who disbelieve in their Lord is the torment of Hell, and worst indeed is that destination.

When they are cast therein, they will hear the terrible drawing in of its breath as it blazes forth.

It almost bursts with fury. Every time a group is cast therein, its keeper will ask: 'Did no warner come to you?'

They will say: 'Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: 'Allah never sent down anything, you are only in great error.'

And they will say: 'Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we would not have been among the dwellers of the Fire!'" [Noble Quran 67:6-10]

Indeed there is nothing in the theology of Islam that cannot be understood by sound reasoning. In fact it is possible for anyone, anywhere to reach an understanding of the essence of Islam without ever having heard of Muhammad or the Quran. This is because the Creator's existence can be readily understood by anyone observing the patterns and intricate mechanisms of the world and universe around us, and that ultimate power and control rests with this Being, and thus is alone truly worthy of worship, and that to worship this Creator one can only rely on Divine guidance.

To attempt to do this is "Islam", which means "sincerity and submission to Allah".

This very universality and simplicity is one of the strong arguments in favor of Islam's Divine origin. For the Muslim, faith is not a blind leap in the dark against proof and reason, but rather a step taken as a consequence of contemplation, experience, instinct and evidence.

Ultimately it does mean a complete acceptance of a single truth, but this is no more blind than the faith of a scientist in a particular theory, or a doctor in form of treatment that has proven itself valid clinically and operationally. It might be compared to the situation in a court, with a jury. Ideally what is supposed to happen is that the jury is presented with a series of evidences concerning a case.

When the weight of evidence is so conclusive the jury makes its decision. It is not sufficient for it to say: "Well, we found the evidence really convincing!" In the end it must make a decision, "Guilty!" or "Not guilty!", based on the facts. Similarly in Islam, the Creator presents the human being with a series of conclusive evidences, upon the basis of which the human should declare their faith, and act accordingly.

Part 2 of the Article: Authenticity of the Quran

Message of the Prophets http://www.islamnewsroom.com/news-we-need/1959-ex-christian-proves-quran?start=1

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answered 1856 IbnFaruque's gravatar image

Allah says:

O you who have believed, if there comes to you a disobedient one with information, investigate, lest you harm a people out of ignorance and become, over what you have done, regretful.

And know that among you is the Messenger of Allah. If he were to obey you in much of the matter, you would be in difficulty, but Allah has endeared to you the faith and has made it pleasing in your hearts and has made hateful to you disbelief, defiance and disobedience. Those are the [rightly] guided.

[It is] as bounty from Allah and favor. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.

And if two factions among the believers should fight, then make settlement between the two. But if one of them oppresses the other, then fight against the one that oppresses until it returns to the ordinance of Allah. And if it returns, then make settlement between them in justice and act justly. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.

The believers are but brothers, so make settlement between your brothers. And fear Allah that you may receive mercy.

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O you who have believed, let not a people ridicule [another] people; perhaps they may be better than them; nor let women ridicule [other] women; perhaps they may be better than them. And do not insult one another and do not call each other by [offensive] nicknames. Wretched is the name of disobedience after [one's] faith. And whoever does not repent – then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

O you who have believed, avoid much [negative] assumption. Indeed, some assumption is sin. And do not spy or backbite each other. Would one of you like to eat the flesh of his brother when dead? You would detest it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is Accepting of repentance and Merciful.

O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted.

The Bedouins say, "We have believed." Say, “You have not [yet] believed; but say [instead], 'We have submitted,' for faith has not yet entered your hearts. And if you obey Allah and His Messenger, He will not deprive you from your deeds of anything. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful."

The believers are only the ones who have believed in Allah and His Messenger and then doubt not but strive with their properties and their lives in the cause of Allah. It is those who are the truthful.

Say, "Would you acquaint Allah with your religion while Allah knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth, and Allah is Knowing of all things?"

They consider it a favor to you that they have accepted Islam. Say, "Do not consider your Islam a favor to me. Rather, Allah has conferred favor upon you that He has guided you to the faith, if you should be truthful."

Indeed, Allah knows the unseen [aspects] of the heavens and the earth. And Allah is Seeing of what you do.

(Translation of the Glorious Quran. Chapter 49. Surah Hujurat http://www.allahsquran.com/read/verses.php?ch=49)

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answered 1856 IbnFaruque's gravatar image

Hello again!

So your point: Islam is true because it is so simple. Well, Christians have a one-sentence explanation of their faith, too: See John 3:16. Then questions like why this was necessary take two sentences and some things cannot be reasonably explained, you're right. But by saying "allahu akbar" daily, shouldn't you believe that God really is greater than our simple mind and that paradise has more to offer than just food and sex?! Isn't this rather proof that Christianity is right: Their paradise includes the very presence of and the restored relation with God?

And why do you always praise yourself for your Tawhid and don't realize that you talk more about Muhammad than about Allah? Since Allah doesn't have a beard, why should Muslims have one? Look, if you want to worship one God only (as you understand this), try to convert to Judaism. It's a bit more complicated than converting to Islam, but I've heard of people who succeeded.

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answered 106 Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image
edited Dec 25 '13 at 15:40

"Doubt" is something between Sure(100%) and Impossible(0%). or by another word; "may be yes and may be no"

and being sure of something 100%(without doubt) is called the certainty in faith.. and thanks Allah we are certain about what we believe. for me I started by the doubts; may be there is Creator and may be not? and I reflect and search and found that it is impossible that there be no Creator.. so it became certainty to me that the Creator exist. and then(next step) I search for "where is His message to me?" and found an invitation of His messenger Muhammad who (claim to)deliver the Creator's message to all mankind, and after checking its signs/proofs manifested in the miraculous Quran (words of Allah/Creator)..i believed in him as the real messenger of Allah and followed the religion of Islam(submit and inclined to the truth/Allah), through his message i learned about the Creator and that He is Allah the one and only my lord and the lord of worlds and of everything.

This is the basic thing to do before go into details; like who is killing more or what is the description of Jannah/Paradise/hidden garden.. for your knowledge there is 8 Jannah, one of it its pleasures is nothing but "nearness from Allah" and that is the best Jannah/Paradise.. its pleasure is not compared with the food and/or sex pleasures.. and that is for the people who were pleased/enjoying nearness of Allah by their mind in this world. because they knew being with the giver of gifts/favors/pleaure is much more better and not compared with the gifts/favors/pleasures.

May Allah(The Creator) guide us to the truth and enlighten us its straight path which drives into Him.

Salaam/Peace upon you

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answered 387117 inclined2truth's gravatar image

May I take a stab at the beard question?

That question is so easy to answer. The reason Muslim men wear beards is the same reason Jewish men wear beards and is the same reason Christian Amish wear beards. It is an outward sign that you are married or betrothed to be married.

It is simply a way for a person to know whether you can be considered available for marriage. If you have a beard, they wont even ask. If you don't, they may approach you and discuss the possibility of marriage.

Mr. Doubts; I study religions, well I study the big three, and I am confused as to what your real question is. I read your initial question and the answers given spoke of Allah way more than Muhammad. You are condemning them for using the word Muhammad too much rather than using the word Allah; yet at the same time you are propping up Christianity as a holier religion when Cristians very rarely even say the word God, unless they are calling the man Yeshua/Jesus/Joshua god. In every Christian church I have ever been in, The word used in place of God is Jesus.

Not to be nitpicky but you are condemning Islam for what you praise Christianity for doing?

I am a very strange person I guess. I can call myself a Christian because I believe in the teachings of Jesus/Yeshua. I can call myself a follower of Israel/Jewish because I believe in the Ten Commandments and the One True God. I can call myself Islam because I find both Christianity/Jesus and Israel in the Quran.

Islam - 1. A monotheistic religion characterized by the acceptance of the doctrine of submission to God

Israel- 1. In the Bible Israel (ĭzrēəl, ĭzrāəl) [as understood by Hebrews,=he strives with God]

Christianity - 1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings

If I submit to the will of God I am Islam; If I follow the teachings of Yeshua/Jesus (only what he taught) I am Christian; If I stand with God when I am striving against something I am Israel.

The key is to stop nitpicking and read. I can only say, that for me, I could not find anything in the Quran that would interfere in my Christianity or being Israel. Unless I have misunderstood what Israel means.

If Israel means to strive against God, Then I must re-examine my position. I have so much information from my studies that it can be overwhelming sometimes.

Keep studying, read the Quran, pray to God for help and you will find what you are looking for. But you have to be honest with yourself when reading.

Have a good day and God Bless you

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answered 101 Thomas68's gravatar image

Sir, I appreciate your comment. Never heard of the marriage reason. Interesting but not persuasive, because it's not the reason today's Muslims grow beards :)

Further: Very well observed: I point to Jesus, while accusing Muslims to point to Muhammad too much.

BUT:

  • Christians base their "Jesus Revolution" on Jesus.

  • Muslims tell me that they have the cleared religion that is only based on submission to Allah. But when looking closer you have to observe so many Muhammad-rules! So many messed up Ahadith.

So the difference: Christians openly declare (admit) that they worship Jesus.

(Apr 27 at 15:44) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

And please note, this was my first question here. And Islam really upsets me. So I was a bit harsh when I started my discussion career here.

And please think well about becoming a Muslim: It's much more difficult to change your mind afterwards.

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