Salam Brother in creation,
I will first clarify "but let's exaime the logic here. someone kills my wife and now i should take them into my home and teach them science,mathmatices, etc. etc. i should trust them around my children?":
This is not the same type of slave I am referring to. In the time of the Prophet Mohammad (pbuhahf), people bought and sold slaves regularly and normally; and no, The Prophet did not allow this but people did it anyways because they were not Muslim. These are slaves that where enslaved by force into slavery from being captured or being taken, etc., not murderers like you are saying. One slave is a slave because of a crime they did and one slave is a slave against their own will. i hope i clarified that much for you. The one that people are requested to free (if they can/ if it exists in their area) are the ones who were slaves against their own will. So these are the slaves that are not murderers that you should trust your family with, as you put.
The murderers that are slaves do not reside with the family, that's ludicrous. An example of not residing with family:
The murderer would work and reside in some form of a work station, and they would meet his basic human needs to food, water, appropriate clothing, and shelter. His pay would go to the family so there is no connection or contact between the family and the murderer.
Secondly, I will reply to "so public intoxication gets you 80 lashes, we agree?":
If you did not read what I said about it in the previous reply, then go re-read it. If you choose not to, that's up to you. I gave very specific examples of when a person is lashed and also showed how much slack and room and time Islam give one before their very last resort of lashing.
Thirdly, I will reply to "i live in florida and i thank ddt for having eliminated malaria, that appearently your god created to kill people? funny i was having dinner with my parents last week because my aunt was n town and my dad was talking about teh first underground nuclear test he went to in nevada. my dad worked for honeywell as a program manager for the space and strategic avionics division. he lead the progaram that developed a nuclear hardened computer. i guess he should be stoned to death? "
It seems you are ignorant of the severe effects pesticides, nuclear radiation (even if it is underground the radiation will penetrate the Earth, leading into underground water sources. Take a college physics class and you will understand that radiation goes everywhere and lasts a very, very long time) on the world. Yes i already know that they do it all on computers know, that is because they understood what they were doing to the world by releasing strontium 90 (through nuclear explosions). No he wouldn't deserve to be stoned. Why do you keep jumping to conclusions? Why would you ask about your father being stoned? Have I not told you a bunch of times that punishment is an extreme last resort in Islam???
If you are trying to be offensive, I would suggest you become more polite. I’m here to answer a question that someone has asked so that they gain knowledge from the answer, so please be more respectful. No one is attacking anyone here.
Regarding the effects of corruption and greed: If you have time, i would suggest that you watch the documentary called "Home" which talks and brings FACTS AND EVIDENCE of the destruction of our planet due to the corruption and greed of corporate giants:
If you have already watched it, then you should know what i am trying to point to.
Before i start with your claim that "your claim that Allah (swt) created things to kill us", i would like to ask you what you mean by "your god"? if you are Muslim, then we share the same God. If you are Christian, we share the same God. If you are Jewish, we share the same God. Why is this so? Because there is only God; there isn’t an Islamic God or a Christian God or a Jewish God. People created the concept that they have their own God so that they can feel superior to someone outside of their religion. So do not try to pin an idea of yours into a personal harassment on others.
Regarding your claim that Allah (swt) created things to kill us: Allah (swt) did not create malaria to kill people; that’s ludicrous. Tell me, were viruses and bacteria made to infect and kill humans? Was mercury made so that if someone comes in contact with it, it destroys their nervous system over time? Were ultraviolet light, x-rays, and gamma rays created so that if you come in contact with it, your DNA would be mutated and cause defects? Were uranium and other radioactive elements made to cause cancer and disease to humans?
You do not know anything about Allah (swt) and you are willing to jump to conclusions about the things He created out of you own ignorance. Allah (swt) created all things that fit the concept of existence. This is proven when you go look at all the hundreds of millions of species of animal you can learn about. This is animals alone and animals that live on the land. There are also hundreds of millions of species of animals that live in the water, fresh and salty. There are also billions of different species of plants and bacteria. Allah (swt) can create whatever He wants, whenever He wants, however He wants, for any reason He wants. Remind me, when was the last time God took permission from anyone to create something?
Do yourself a favor, sit down and realize that everyone will meet their end wether it is in 100 years, a month, or a day. Would you say that you were born just to die? Do not criticize Allah (swt) because of the existence of a few organisms/things that are lethal. If you choose to be blind of His Magnificence and His All-Mighty Power to create anything He chooses, then that's the fault of your own arrogance, thinking that you are wiser than the Creator.
Fourthly, i shall respond to "lashing people and stning them or crucifying them is torture by an reasonable modern persons definition. so to say, "in islam, torture is FORBIDDEN" is catgorically WRONG.":
Do understand the difference between torture and punishment. Torture is when one causes suffering, purely for the sake of causing pain. Punishment is when someone is being penalized for an offense they have committed. Islam forbids torture and allows punishment. Please get your facts straightened and you will understand what I am saying.
Lastly, I shall respond to "btw, best be careful, i think you just called aisha or your boy ali or maybe both corrupt "all wars that have begun...." surely you know of the battle of camel.":
Of course I know that battle, but let us be very clear on one thing: there is a HUGE difference between starting a war and fighting in a war. One who starts war is the corrupt and the one who fights the one who started it to defend themselves and their religion, are not the corrupt. Aisha started the war and Ali (a.s.) fought against it. If you choose to say anything, remember that Ali (a.s.) was the caliph at the time and Aisha waged war against him.
I do not understand why you choose to call Ali (a.s.) "your boy ali". I do not want to bring in a conflict of religion; this is not the point of this website. Do not offend me by calling him that because you can. You cannot bring a single sin or wrong act that Ali (a.s.) has done. You criticize and mock him for something you believe he has done. You are naive and believe something someone has told you about him that isn’t true without research of the matter. In this website, there is no such thing as Sunni or Shiite unless someone wants to know their views on a topic/idea/event. If you want to bring in religious conflicts, I would suggest you find a website that is debating it. There, you can talk about anything you want. Here, we are answering questions for the benefit of the people reading.