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I must disclose that I am not yet decided on Islam. I have studied the Bible for years and have noticed a very disturbing pattern with the Tribes of Israel. One thing that would help clarify one of my theories about who they are, would be to know if the Dome of the Rock is the seal placed over the bottomless pit to bind Satan. It is spoken of in Revelation. In Hebrew writings the Foundation Stone that is under the Dome of the Rock was placed there by God to hold in spirits, but apparently someone dug it open again to release them. Also in the Bible it says that when Solomon finished his temple to his god, that god in the form of a thick darkness drove the priests out before they could finish sanctifying it to the real God. Does Islam have any information on this?

asked 101 Thomas68's gravatar image

What kind of disturbing patterns?

(Apr 27 at 11:57) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

This is very hard to explain in such a short space and it make sense. But in a nutshell.

If you follow the Covenant about the promised land from beginning to end using the King James Bible you will see at several times the Covenant is stolen (less than honest) to obtain it, then later returned to it's rightful recipient. As in the case of Jacob/Israel. Everyone seems to pass up the part when after his vision Jacob says that God had just showed him what he must do. He then finds his older brother Esau/Edom and bows to him and calls him master and gives him back all that was stolen from him.

(Apr 27 at 16:45) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

Esau tells his brother not to worry because God has blessed him even greater and takes Jacob to HIS land. It just so happens that Esau's land is the same land that Ishmael possessed. Remember God said that Ishmael was blessed also, and would be a GREAT NATION. That land is called Canaan. You see God did lead twelve tribes to the promised land Gen 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

(Apr 27 at 16:48) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

The entire Bible shows a pattern of a blessing being stolen or coveted away from it's rightful possessor. Read Exodus carefully and you will see that God said IF you follow my Commandments GOD will drive out the inhabitants. They clearly never obeyed the Commandments, so by default they never obtained the reward. Be careful because at the end God tells Moses that HIS children would inherit the Covenant of the promised land, not those that were in the desert. Strange how people read something in a light that makes them the good guy.

(Apr 27 at 16:53) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

Only after the death of Moses and Aaron does a non-Levite names Joshua take claim to the Covenant, and to being High Priest. Remember only a Levite could be High Priest by the order of God! Joshua son of Nun. lets look at that statement. The word nun means perpetual, but what about the letter nun? Apparently from my research the letter is the symbol or visual representation of the serpent. That would make Joshua the son of the serpent. which later would become the Pharisees/ Zionists. see a pattern?

(Apr 27 at 17:00) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

They stole the land by military force then and have done the same again today. Now although this doesn't matter to me personally since I am not in that land, does it make it right? Those twelve tribes had never ever lived in that land. But Ishmael's tribes had always lived there. As part of the Covenant - A GREAT NATION. Singular! Isaac was to be A GREAT MULTITUDE OF NATIONS. Plural. So with that in mind, what one nation? Makes you think?

(Apr 27 at 17:06) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

At least this is interesting! Let me check that by myself.

(Apr 27 at 17:15) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

The following I don't see:

Joshua was not the High Priest (well later on one was called Joshua), nor were his descendants serving in the Mishkan (tent).

And they were still all the tribes then.

And where do you have these things from? (because I agree with my Muslim friend that in the internet there's really a lot of confusing stuff)

(Apr 28 at 03:31) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image
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All I can really tell you is that the prophet muhammad peace be upon him had gone to the Qubbat As-Sakhrah, which is the temple of the floating rock with the angel Gabriel taking him to the highest ranks in the heavens. To pray to the only one true god. With all the prophets that god had sent, including Jesus peace be upon him, praying and Muhammad peace be upon him is the imam of the entire prayer. The main reason of the floating rock, is that when the prophet peace be upon him, was ascending to the heavens to see god, the rocks wished to follow his presence, and he had commanded them to stay where they were and the rocks stayed floating to this very day. It is current that the Jewish people have been digging under it to have the entire mosque collapse for the Muslims.

answered 1535 Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

All the time people (especially the Jews) keep digging to make our Islamic things collapse. We're such poor victims! ;)

(Apr 27 at 11:59) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

I don't like how that comment is worded. I don't believe that you are a muslim and you are on this site to tell your thought that are mainly sarcasticly against Islam, do not comment to my answer again.

(Apr 27 at 16:27) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

My apologies Mr Qutawna for his comment. He is indeed a Christian and seems to be in search for something. I also call myself a Christian although I do not believe in most of what modern Christianity has become. I too am in search; for the truth about Judaism and Christianity. I live in a region of USA with no access to Islam so I rely on the internet and an English translation of the Quran. I truly appreciate your comment. It is hard for those who haven't read the Quran to get past the media image that is depicted of violence. If anyone reads the Quran they would know the truth.

(Apr 27 at 17:28) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

Beware of the intertnet Mr. Thomas, because it may as well mislead sometime and many time.

(Apr 28 at 01:42) Abdulgafar Abdulgafar's gravatar image

You are a real man mr. Thomas, I forgive brother, if you are to look into Islam drive to any nearby mosque and talk to their imam, feel free to ask any question you wish, the imam should back it up by Quran, sunnah, or Hadith. God bless you mr. Thomas.

(Apr 28 at 09:07) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

Thank you for your replies. I will search for a mosque to see if there is one close enough to drive to. I am sure there is one within 60 miles because years ago, when I first started my journey, I had the privilege to speak in person to a Muslim who clarified many of my misconceptions. I don't mean to offend when I say this, but Islam is almost identical to Christianity, if Christianity were practiced according to the teachings of Jesus. In reality Jesus was Muslim because he submitted to the will of God and I suppose Christianity was suppose to be part of Islam?

(Apr 28 at 13:46) Thomas68 Thomas68's gravatar image

Thomas your observation is correct. Their teachings are same but they (christians) have invented some things by themselves like "jesus is god" by far most common.

You see for a religion to be truth it has to have reliable source to base on. The only book which stands the test of time, and withstands corruption is Quran (I am talking arabic text of course) which is primary source in Islamic Law.

Secondary are AUTHENTIC ahadith and top two are Sahih Bukhari and Muslims.

Therefore, we have Allah's book and Muhammad (pbuh) authentic hadith which completes the Islam.

(Apr 28 at 20:27) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Islam is complete from all aspects because the laws of Allah can be applied everywhere say from your clothes (hijab) to running an Islamic state for example. Therefore last verse of Quran to be revealed was:

"Today I perfected your religion for you and completed my favour to you and have chosen for you Al-Islam as your religion."[5:3]

Note: Allah himself gave the religion its name.

(Apr 28 at 20:28) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Muslim: Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet returned to Khadija while his heart was beating rapidly. She took him to Waraqa bin Naufal who was a Christian convert and used to read the Gospels in Arabic Waraqa asked (the Prophet), "What do you see?" When he told him, Waraqa said, "That is the same angel whom Allah sent to the Prophet) Moses. Should I live till you receive the Divine Message (Quran), I will support you strongly." (Book #55, Hadith #605)

So from Bible he knew about Muhammad (pbuh).

(Apr 28 at 21:02) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image
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Yes, Islam is close to Christianity. When the Muslims went to the Byzantine Christians to seek refuge from the people who worshipped idols, the Muslims had told the Byzantine emperor about Islam the Byzantine emperor said that Islam and Christianity are as close than the two lights made by a window, he started to cry, and took his shahada. God be with you big brother.

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