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I have been looking deeply into Islam and my parents found out! Now they are setting up meetings with my church pastors and headmaster of my christian school. I dont know what to do! Im afraid they are going to confuse me and scare me.

asked 153 MegWilliams's gravatar image

why would they not want you to look into islam. all knowledge is good. you should look into hindism and buddhism as well. what kind of christian school is this? i went to catholic school and we studied other religions including islam. maybe not real indeepth, but the more indeepth the sillier it becomes. just look at many of the questions here about magic. read the surah, "the ants".

i guess you are a tween or a teen? this is the age of exploration, don't be afraid to look into new things. and by all means question everything. that is how you grow as a person.

(Apr 28 at 11:58) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Mike, I have to admit: Sometimes you're right! :)

(Apr 28 at 12:07) Muhammad Had Doubts Muhammad%20Had%20Doubts's gravatar image

thanks, i guess?

meg, abdul wasway just reminded me of the story of gog and magog on another thread. half you come across this in your indeepth study? do you think there is two tribes of savage midgets behind a great iron wall in china?

(Apr 28 at 12:34) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

I would like to tell you its true, but they're not midgets and they're not in china, only the one true god knows this information and the one true god will know the day it is to be revealed. Mike you should learn more about Islam and at least try to respect it if you're in an islamic website.

(Apr 29 at 15:26) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

Mike, I could find over 100 things to say out of disbelief about the other religions, but I do not choose to because i respect your religion and people if other religions. It seems in appropriate that you make sarcastic remarks that try to criticize my religion, I will get highly offended.

(Apr 29 at 15:30) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

i thought someone said they were small on the giants question. must have been abdul and not you. anyway, what makes you think i have a religion? so you respect paganism? do you think it was wrong for the taliban to blow up those buddhas in afghanistan? how about muhammad destroying 360 idols? doesn't sound too respectful?

yes i know, muslims get highly offended. par for the course.

what do you think of that british ahmadi who just had to flee pakistan because they were going to try him of being an apostate?

(Apr 30 at 10:31) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Please chill out my friend

(Apr 30 at 16:57) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

i'm chill baby pop.

no thoughts on pagans and idolaters? the ahmadi or how abut the druze. did you see some muslims are all a buzz about clooney's fiance'?

(Apr 30 at 17:17) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

I am getting steaming hot so can you both chill?

(Apr 30 at 19:36) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

I am more cool than the other side of the pillow brother, I'm just having a small questioning with my good pal mike. Abdul relax before I steam some vegetables over your temper. ;) ha... You get it bro?.. Okay sorry mike for questioning you, feel free to do what ever you wish on this website.

(Apr 30 at 19:43) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

@Muhammad

"I guarantee a house in Jannah for one who gives up arguing, even if he is in the right; and I guarantee a home in the middle of Jannah for one who abandons lying even for the sake of fun; and I guarantee a house in the highest part of Jannahfor one who has good manners.''

(Apr 30 at 19:47) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

But I am right, I have given up arguing, I am being respectful, and I had never lied about anything, isn't Islam the true religion?

(Apr 30 at 20:16) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

Yes so let him speak whatever he likes. Our religion is truth so no matter how many lies one makes, it doesn't make a difference, we know our religion.

(Apr 30 at 20:23) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Okay, I sure like the way you stated that one out bro.

(Apr 30 at 20:31) Muhammad noor qutawna Muhammad%20noor%20qutawna's gravatar image

yeah, remember your adab, boys. and 4:86. allah accounts for all things. so who is making lies?

a_w, good thing y'all aren't allowed to gamble. if that got ya steaming you would be a horrible texas holdem player. ;)

(May 01 at 11:12) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Texas holdem? Thank Allah I got AVG antivirus so those mr.greens don't pop up.

(May 01 at 18:57) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

i have no idea what that means?

(May 03 at 11:17) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image
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Congrats now your test begins as a Muslim (check [1] in footnotes). They will use weak knowledge (assumption) of yours and try to confuse you in your own beliefs and for that sake I have posted everything I have here. I hope you have strong knowledge.

Megwilliams no need to be afraid (Islam is simple and based on two main sources: Quran and Sunnah and if you get confused or doubtful then say "I have weak knowledge on it but I will check it later"). Use questioning and logical reasoning throughout the session. When they quote you should see it for yourself rather them telling you by rote as they might twist or exclude some parts of the verse (and look for context of the verses for better understanding) for confusion so be on look for it.

Ask THEM QUESTIONS RATHER THEM ASKING YOU (16:125_Invite (mankind, O Muhammad SAW) to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Inspiration and the Quran) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided.) and make it seem you are interested (try and ask more questions):

  1. Where is Jesus (ra) saying he is god or worship him? (note they will say paul (narrator) says and they might exclude Paul from the statement to confuse you)
  2. Trinity concept (that is where exactly in bible in your RSV (latest version))
  3. Why wouldn't Adam be god because he was created without mother and father?
  4. Why shouldn't Ezra [3] be also considered son of god according to the Jews (note bible got sons by the tons)
  5. Which version of bible should I follow?
  6. Why are there disturbing things in bible? (http://www.answering-christianity.com/x_rated.htm)
  7. Why would Jesus (ra) die for our sins? (then by that logic everyone can commit whatever sin)
  8. If Jesus (ra) was god for argument sake then why did he not have the power to stop his crucifixion?
  9. Why do you give Jesus (ra)preference over other prophets? Weren't they all prophets and should be given equally due respect?[4]
  10. How was his message different to other prophets?[5]
  11. Why are there scientific errors in the bible?
  12. Is he a begotten son? Then that would imply that god has to commit {you know what} (naozibillah but for argument sake).

NB: the word "son of god" can be looked from either of two perspectives: a)as a pious person b)begotten son

They might get angry that you ask them too much questions and say that you should put faith. But belief without logic is illogical itself. How can religion limit using intelligence to ponder over the truth?[6]

OK that's some list and the things they will try to tell about Islam to scare you:

  1. Beating wives (the conditions for beating are: they can't beaten in face or be a left a mark on the body (from Ahadith) which implies beating as light as with a handkerchief)
  2. Polygamy (Quran permits limited polygamy to 4 wives and that is practical to the modern world because of current man to woman ration which is 1:6. This ratio is going to rise in favour of woman to the point of 1:50. Quran also says in the same verse "if you can,not deal with them justly, then marry only ONE")
  3. They might take some fabricated Ahadith so you have confirm the chain of transmission and its text
  4. They might discuss about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) having more than 4 wives. The reasons are given in this site: http://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2010/09/20/the-wisdom-behind-prophet-muhammads-saw-plural-marriages/
  5. They will say about our Prophet (pbuh) about marrying Aisha at young age which is given here: http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2008/07/why-prophet-muhammad-married-aisha-when.html
  6. Killing even though it is condemned not only in Islam, but every religion.
  7. Concept of abrogation in Quran (I recommend you to read: http://islamqa.info/en/105746)
  8. Woman rights in Islam

You may want to check the FAQ (frequently asked questions) and the link is here: http://www.irf.net/faq.html and check through questions and answers "especially asked by the Christian Missionaries against Islam")

That is as much as my knowledge goes and may Allah with you!

You may prefer to read this first because it gives "good summary" of Christianity and Islam (including similarities): http://www.irf.net/Christianity.html

This site is all about answering misconceptions and blames they put on Islam: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm (if you have particular query then type "answeringchristianity beating wives"/"answeringchristianity Aisha" in Google)


And they say, "None shall enter Paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." These are their own desires. Say (O Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), "Produce your proof if you are truthful."

(Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #111)

Recite this dua before going there: http://www.coiradio.com/library/library/quran/light/light_06/009/129.htm (Surah Taubah v 129)

[1]Surah Ankabut:

  1. Alif-Lam-Mim.

[These letters are one of the miracles of the Qur'an, and none but Allah (Alone) knows their meanings.]

  1. Do people think that they will be left alone because they say: "We believe," and will not be tested.

  2. And We indeed tested those who were before them. And Allah will certainly make (it) known (the truth of) those who are true, and will certainly make (it) known (the falsehood of) those who are liars, (although Allah knows all that before putting them to test).

[2]Check video lectures of Sheikh Ahmed Deedat (and Dr Zakir Naik) on topics such as: Is Jesus god? Was Jesus crucified? etc as they studied both religions.

[3]The Jews call `Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is the saying from their mouth; (In this) they are intimate; what the Unbelievers of the old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the truth. [Qur'an 9:30]

[4] Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Leave me as I leave you for the people who were before you were ruined because of their questions and their differences over their prophets. So, if I forbid you to do something, then keep away from it. And if I order you to do something, then do of it as much as you can." (Sahih Bukhari Book #92, Hadith #391)

[5] Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "My similitude in comparison with the other prophets is that of a man who has built a house completely and excellently except for a place of one brick. When the people enter the house, they admire its beauty and say: 'But for the place of this brick (how splendid the house will be)!" (Book #56, Hadith #734)

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Every Prophet was given miracles because of which people believed, but what I have been given, is Divine Inspiration which Allah has revealed to me. So I hope that my followers will outnumber the followers of the other Prophets on the Day of Resurrection." (Book #61, Hadith #504)

Narrated 'Aisha and 'Abdullah bin 'Abbas: When the disease of Allah's Apostle got aggravated, he covered his face with a Khamisa, but when he became short of breath, he would remove it from his face and say, "It is like that! May Allah curse the Jews Christians because they took the graves of their prophets as places of worship." By that he warned his follower of imitating them, by doing that which they did. (Book #72, Hadith #706)

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of mankind, and all the prophets are of different mothers but belong to one religion and no Prophet was raised between me and Jesus. (Book #030, Hadith #5835)

[6]Surah Mulk:

8 It almost bursts up with fury. Every time a group is cast therein, its keeper will ask: "Did no warner come to you?"

9 They will say: "Yes indeed; a warner did come to us, but we belied him and said: 'Allah never sent down anything (of revelation), you are only in great error.'"

10 And they will say: "Had we but listened or used our intelligence, we would not have been among the dwellers of the blazing Fire!"

11 Then they will confess their sin. So, away with the dwellers of the blazing Fire.

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answered 8587 abdul_wasay's gravatar image
edited Apr 28 at 12:25

what if her school is unitarian christian. no need for the trinitarian debate. where in the world do you get a 1 to 6 male to female ratio. you're going to make the poor girl look stupid. there are 100 males to every 105 females. that is 1:1.05.

interesting you quote 9:30. that is a well know flaw in the koran. jews do not believe uzair to be the son of god.

your first 9. is interesting as well. do you not give more respect to muhammad then the other "prophets".

(Apr 28 at 12:08) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

that is,not a flaw but a flaw of your own knowledge: the rebuttal is here http://www.answering-christianity.com/quran/qb005.htm

you last point about giving respect is a comparison in itself when you used the word 'more' and when I say respect it means giving all prophets the same respect as they submitted one message. Muhammad (pbuh) is a plain messenger and a warner which many other prophets were.

the ratio is from google not from me

And mike you might think I am a muslim because I was born. No I had my doubts cleared thats why I am muslim by choice today.

(Apr 28 at 12:15) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

is that answwering-christianity going to tell me he was speaking of one particular tribe of jews at that time. if so i've read it. and answering-islam has an answer as well. personally i think answering-islam and answering-christianity are run by the same people.

so you googled male to female ratio and choose what link? try something from the UN or the CIA worldfact book next time. only a person trying to justify polygyny would make such a thing up. so if something happened and it wiped out a bunch of females would you be all right with polyandry? can a wife "lightly" hit her husband?

(Apr 28 at 12:30) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

so you don't give more respect to muhammad then david? noah? lot? jesus?

(Apr 28 at 12:35) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

He is last messenger thus I follow him. And we revere him by following him.

The question of "respect" I can't answer as that is a petty issue. The main point to consider is not to delve into which prophet is more SUPERIOR to the other.

And you are saying same authors write that site correct? The same old answers to same ordinary questions or misconceptions. Btw there are like 50 common questions asked by non-muslims so the answer will stay similar as well.

OK mike if having girlfriends is better than so be it. But I follow my deen.

(Apr 28 at 16:32) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

so where do you think gog and magog are? looks like you believe them to be humans, 'chiildren of adam", right? i was talking with a muslim on the phone a couple of weeks ago and he said they were in another dimension. shouldn't they be on earth behind the great iron and copper rampart? don't you think we would come across them at some point? is the ratio of 9 to 1 in effect today? that would mean there are 13.5 billion of them.

(Apr 29 at 12:34) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

{And when the peoples of Gog and Magog are let loose and swarm swiftly from every highland, when the True Promise draws near, the disbelievers’ eyes will stare in terror, and they will say, ‘Woe to us! We were not aware of this at all. We were wrong.’} (Al-Anbiya’ 21:96-97)

Peoples hence they are humans. It is Allah's will, if He doesn't want it to be seen then we can't find it.

But when time comes and the the barrier is broken then we shall see them. I pray I am,not alive at that time.

(Apr 30 at 10:38) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

i know the story, my question is where do they physically reside?

(May 03 at 11:17) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image
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