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Allah's command to satan?

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Jinn are given free will and so they can be good (accept/obey) or evil (deny/disobey). Shayateen are evil Jinn. Majority of Jinn are liars/disbelievers.. some of them are Believers who will be allowed to enter Jannah. The most well known disbeliever among the Jinn is Iblis. He had reached a high status but got arrogant and started to deride Allah's سبحانه و تعالى command to prostrate (which put him into kufr - the refusal to bow itself is just a sin, not kufr). Hence, this shows the seriousness of arrogance.

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How dare a human denies Allah rights?

(May 29 at 23:04) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Yes, exactly.

(May 30 at 02:11) iLove01 iLove01's gravatar image

what "rights" does a mythical being have?

(May 30 at 11:06) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Mike define God (Allah) for me please?

(May 30 at 11:20) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

define that which does not exist. can't be done.

i can define several beliefs or concepts of god. or gods, i've been recently reading up on hinduism.

(May 30 at 12:04) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

So ur only argument is that you dont see thats why you dont believe.

Ok tell me where did nucleus of an atom come from?

(May 30 at 12:08) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Well I could answer this quest as it is about an atom. The nucleus comes after several experiment e.g Rutherford's Scattering Experiment.

Abdul wasay u flopped again!!

(May 30 at 14:19) Askislam2014 Askislam2014's gravatar image

How did he flop do explain...salaam

(May 30 at 14:46) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

No it was discovered. Be little precise. So where did nucleus come from?

(May 30 at 14:55) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

a_w, what are you talking about? who said anything about not believing because you can't see?

i beleive in electrons and protons and neutrons. so you believe in a god of mercy? who has ordered you to torture people. to kill them if they leave "his" relgion?

(May 30 at 15:38) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

There is an incident where Muhammad (Pbuh) didnt kill the apostate. So it depnds on the issue

You said there is no "mythical creature" but ur contradicting urself. Thinking too narrow:

"who said anything about believing u dont see?"

Then you contra by saying,

"There is no mythical creature (which u didnt see)."

Thus you can't deny something you don't see.

(May 30 at 17:59) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Abdul wasay to be honest u r asking a non sense question. It's like u are asking where did the single organism come from or where did the weak nuclear force come from which hold the neutrons together??

To be honest it's quite non sense. Abdul wasay I am not saying u r non sense but your question is!!

@yaqin it's apparent that he flopped by asking non sense question and got answered.

(May 30 at 23:02) Askislam2014 Askislam2014's gravatar image

Ok man I am wrong.

(May 30 at 23:11) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Brother Abdul's question is perfectly valid. Have you not heard of particle physics? Salam

(May 31 at 03:35) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

a_w, dude, both your quotes, i'm assuming you mean to quote me, are not what I said. please you should be able to accurately quote, it is right on the screen above you. also you but an argument to me that I never made. you said (pay attention here is how you quote someone)"So ur only argument is that you dont see thats why you dont believe." (and autocorrect put in the 's on don't and that's so I went back to change them to be accurate) I DID NOT SAY THAT.

do you here me now. you say "Thus you can't deny something you don't see." (funny that the 's are in now? is that a different computer)

(May 31 at 09:33) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

anyway, someone asked here if there are fairies in islam. people said no. how can they deny what they can't see. how is it you discount the hindu gods? you sure the sun isn't a fiery chariot ridden by appolo across the sky everyday? god is a manmade myth made up by primitive people to explain things they did not understand. then used as a means to control behavior and now is often simple a comforting thought for those who do not want to believe that when you die, you are just dead.

can you disprove reincarnation?

and stop misquoting people and reading things that aren't there? ;)

(May 31 at 09:39) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

paul, you got some string theory for us? how's the boy's hadith review coming? has he thrown out the one that says to kill all black dogs yet? I was reading 'The World of Jinn and Devils in the Light of the Quran' the other day. funny thing, if there is a snake in your house, you have to tell it to leave and give it 3 days. unless it has 2 black strips. then you can kill it out right, because those ones cause miscarriages and blindness. but if you come across a snake out side you can kill it right away. strange don't you think. live with a snake for 3 days, but don't let it be outside??

(May 31 at 09:46) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Hi Mike. I'm a frayed knot.

(May 31 at 10:19) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

on what? a string theory lecture or your son's work. either way it doesn't really matter.

so have you taken to this whole concept of jinn? I remember you giving sage advise on some questions about mental health and such. steering away from the whole Islamic belief in black magic. speaking of black magic, wow, you mention malcom glazer and he dies within a week. oh wait, I mentioned him. lol. the other day I almost posted Black Sabbath's N.I.B. then I thought the muslims might freak out. so just for your viewing pleasure. some old brits.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SGQycuXUw takes ya back?

(May 31 at 10:33) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

holy cow i'm getting old. just got that. string theory, frayed not. and even worse I think it is kinda funny. don't tell me this is what the future holds? amused by clever puns. next thing you know i'll be learning bridge.

my buddy just got a ping pong table for his 45th birthday and he's all like, remember back in college when we used to play. but man, I better make some calls. find some hallucinogenic and crank up the Sabbath and pretend i'm back in college tonite. I don't think ping pong is going to cut. fallen too far.

(May 31 at 10:42) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

That was the punch line of a joke, Mike. It's a Brit thing. You give the punch line and others have to guess the joke. For example: Punch line - 'His photograph is fully developed'. Joke: 'What's the difference between a guy from Florida and his photograph.....?'

(May 31 at 10:42) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

lol. got it. see above. I was typing for a long time. my thoughts often develop slowly. 3 seconds too slow.

(May 31 at 10:45) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

You're a pain in the arse, Mike....but I like you. Have a great weekend.

(May 31 at 10:47) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

u2 boss. always fun chatting wit ya.

(May 31 at 10:50) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Sorry, I didn't mean to be rude: Khalid is doing ok thanks. Still working on translating Qur'an and aHadith exegesis. Rest of family there are keeping well. Went to see them last year.....got knocked down by a van in a public shopping precinct. Bowled over; but otherwise ok. Detective's first question to me was: 'Do you pardon the driver?' Thought that strange, until I realised that the prime purpose of the sharia is to forgive and not to punish. As soon as I said 'Yes' the driver was off the hook. It made me think. Anyway, must be off. Sorry for rambling. Take good care of yourself.

(May 31 at 11:16) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

Lol clearly ur smart at playing psychological tricks. So leave it be.

44 mike and still up to those uh

(May 31 at 11:27) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

Brother Abdul. Are you addressing your remarks to me? Do you think I'm Mike? Better ask Sadie and Yaqin....they will tell you who I am. Rest assured...I am not Mike.

(May 31 at 11:33) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

@Abdul wasay brother paul is not mike.he mike my wife and myself have been dealing with eachother for over a year more close to two. So we have an understanding with mike which most new people have to come to. Brother paul is a good brother that loves Islam. Salaam

(May 31 at 16:44) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

Its at mike. I already know paul you aren't mike, I can tell by your writing style.

(May 31 at 18:40) abdul_wasay ♦ abdul_wasay's gravatar image

no need to apologize paul. nothing rude there. sorry to here you where bowled over. but good to see the famed british stiff upper lip is still around. hope it wasn't as bad as when chevy chase hit the guy from monty pythons in European vacation. too bad that isn't the first question in America. although if you said yes, i'm sure an ambulance chaser could get it thrown out in court. "he was disoriented..." here we have 1-800-ask-gary or 800-411-pain. lawyer referral services that advertise non-stop to get people to call them from the accident scene. then they send them to a chiropractor who

(Jun 02 at 10:32) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

will coach them on what injuries to claim. one of the great tragedies of 9/11 was that bush came in promising tort reform, but got a little distracted. no one has gotten back to it. although here in florida some things have been done on the state level.

anyway, so your son has taken an interesting name. very similar to yours, don't you think? is that meant to be an homage to you?

(Jun 02 at 10:37) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Hi Mike,

I see that the English team has arrived in Miami for a pre-world cup practice. Good to see a decent football team in your neck of the woods for a change!

Go Limeys!

(Jun 02 at 10:45) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

lol. firs, i think you mean soccer. second, did you send your hooligans with them? third, clearly you have never heard of our local team. "the rowdies arrrrrre... a kick in the grass!!!"

but you are right. see American's aren't really good at girl's sports. well our girls are, but the men, not so much.

(Jun 02 at 10:59) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Touché! Touché indeed!

(Jun 02 at 11:01) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

As a Welshman, of course, I do not support England. I think a Taff like me would rather saw off his private parts with a plastic hair comb than do that! Besides which, I played rugby.

(Jun 02 at 11:04) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

don't be breaking out the French on me now. gotta go, hopefully talk to ya latter. don't forget to look both ways. ;)

(Jun 02 at 11:05) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Nice photo, Brother Abdul! LOL.

Salam.

(Jun 02 at 11:23) Paulus Paulus's gravatar image

Mikej I just read your comment about snakes and black strips on them.

I swear to God it's quite funny.
Bruv u r a joker makes me laugh every time I read ur comment. Have a good day

(Jun 05 at 05:07) Askislam2014 Askislam2014's gravatar image

thanks but i can't take credit for it. it is from the book: The World of Jinn & Devils in the Light of the Quran and Sunnah. i downloaded a pdf. it is quite hilarious. try www.kalamullah.com/Books/JinnDevils.pdf

you have a good day too. don't forget to say your magic words before you enter a building. gotta let the bad jinn know you are a believer and you are coming in. right foot first. ;)

(Jun 05 at 10:21) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Mikej it's make me laugh like bull everytime I see people following superstitious beliefs.

Mike, not just bad Jinns. Now we got bad Angels as well hahahahahahahhaa

(Jun 05 at 13:07) Askislam2014 Askislam2014's gravatar image

Askislam are you muslim??????????

(Jun 05 at 15:38) yaqin ♦ yaqin's gravatar image

looks like someone didn't like him. slit his throat.

(Jun 07 at 09:45) mikejm4 mikejm4's gravatar image

Ask islam are u a jerk or something swag ? There is war between the great Allah and devils. They are giving Allah some tough time

(Jun 07 at 13:53) Modest4lyfeee Modest4lyfeee's gravatar image

Mikej what the heck u just wrote

(Jun 07 at 13:53) Modest4lyfeee Modest4lyfeee's gravatar image

Slit his throat?????

(Jun 07 at 13:53) Modest4lyfeee Modest4lyfeee's gravatar image
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@Askislam, beloved, there is no power that can compare to Allah azza waj jall. In grasping the difference between the QADA and the QADR is where you will find your answer inshallah, with that said lets proceed: The word QADA means a decree, when Allah azza waj jall makes a decree it is fully carried out, as the quran states, "When HE decrees a matter (qada amran), HE says to it kun faya kun (be and it is)." (Sura 2:117) also (3:59). Beloved within the Qada no one or nothing can defy the command of Allah azza waj jall. On the other hand, QADR, refers to the setting of measures as the quran states,"And there is nothing but that with us are the stores thereof and we donot send it down except (be Qadr maalumn) in known measures." Sura 15:21 Also, "Surely we have created all things with qadr measure." Sura 54:49 Sura 97 states that the angels and Jibriel by Allah's AMR command, comes down with set measures on the night of power. Beloved within these set measures by Allah's Rahma us and jinn are given a choice of action, this choce doesnot deminish the power of Allah in no shape form or fashion, for we meaning, man and jinn can never exceed the set measure of our choices. Know with yaqin that Allah knows what our choices will be before we make them for it has been written as the hadith qudsi has stated that Allah first created the pen and ordered it to write everything that will happen from then until the day of judgement. The quran states in many sura's that Allah has granted AQL intellect to seek the truth. While it is true that Allah has created within man and jinn certain powers, these powers are serverly limited by qada and qadr, the former representing that which Allah directly decree and against which man and jinn is powerless, while the latter represents limits and bounds set by Allah that man and jinn cannot possibly transgress. Freedom of will, inwhich the muslim has pointed out, is therefore limited by Allah and in no way limits Allah's power. Allah's ADL justice is real and it is only because of man and jinn limited freedom to choose a coarse of action that Allah will appropriately reward or punish us.... salaam

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Brother,

The Quran exists! you are on islam.com asking questions to lead you to truth and to help you find the path to paradise and allah! If shaitan was even close to powerful as allah, how would he allow this? he would lead you to shaitan.com. everything around us is a gift from allah and when you realize this, shaitains power can not even come close to our wonderful and merciful allah. don't worry my friend, allah can overcome anything. he is the most powerful. allah made it so that i can send you an answer on islam.com, be careful the shaitan is trying to tempt you away from islam and allahs goodness. whatever you do, don't go to shaitan.com 7bibi, it is very haram. you will get bad shaitan virus on computer probably. may allah be with you and remember to stay on islam.com

peace brother

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edited Jun 04 at 03:26 UmarAbdullah ♦ 40117 UmarAbdullah's gravatar image
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Superhijan, what does 7bibi mean? I think it means habibi. Thanks

(Jun 04 at 02:04) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image
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it does mean habibi! thank you. bless you brother

(Jun 04 at 02:25) superhijab superhijab's gravatar image

I sense some jokes in this post, may Allah reward you. But anyways, there is no competition between shaitan and Allah in terms of power. In fact, there is no power nor might except with Allah. If Allah wills He can get rid of the shaitan any moment. What the shaitan does is also by the permission of Allah. Allah allows him to do His mischief even though Allah does not like it. This life is a test, and Allah allows those who are evil to do evil, and those who are good to do good. And in the end, He will judge between them

(Jun 04 at 03:25) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

Allah's mercy encompasses all things.

(Jun 04 at 03:52) UmarAbdullah ♦ UmarAbdullah's gravatar image

.........go away devil to your leader iblees

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edited Jun 06 at 09:40 abdul_wasay ♦ 8587 abdul_wasay's gravatar image
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A3oozu biAllah el shaitan el rejime, bismillah al ra7man al ra7im. Mr. Shaitan please go back to shaitan.com, DO NOT stalk us on islam.com because there are muslim woman like me here (mthjbi al7mdllah)you are not welcome here. Take your haram to haram websites like mark zuckerburg

(Jun 05 at 22:20) superhijab superhijab's gravatar image
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