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Who do you believe Jesus is? You say He is regarded as a prophet, so why do you not follow His teachings concerning heaven, hell, and salvation?

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in john 14:6, it states that Jesus said, " I am the way, the truth, and the life : no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

if that is what Jesus taught, then why is Muhammad's message the one believed, instead of Jesus, who obviously says that He is the only way? This does not make sense.

(Apr 17 '12 at 20:19) researcher researcher's gravatar image

According to ur believes didnt Jesus die so all the sins of everyone can be cleared?? Basically nobody has to do nothing to go to heaven u can do as u please than go to church confess and u are all done with it? So y is there a god if god paid for our sins? Why does hell exist? How could Jesus be killed if he is god? Who made jesus come back ? If jesus was god and jesus died than how did the earth continue w/o god? I think your question is not for this site, you might have to go to a different website if you want a answer that you agree with and not an answer that is the truth.

(Apr 19 '12 at 01:29) Faith Faith's gravatar image

astagfirulla. the injeel(bible) is changed many times after coming on earth and is not the original one as it was before and the only book which has not been changed is the holy book quran. so thats the reason why mohammads(s.a.w.)pbuh message is acepted.

(Apr 22 '12 at 10:56) aaliya ♦ aaliya's gravatar image
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@ Faith- I'm sorry, but your "answer" did not in any way truly answer my question. I am doing research on your religion, and just wanted some clarification on some information I had learned about Islam and did not understand. You only asked more questions and assumed my question was not for this site. I specifically used this site, knowing Muslims would answer my questions. You wrote, "you might have to go to a different website if you want a answer that you agree with and not an answer that is the truth". I do not appreciate your comment. I am doing research, as I said above, and was trying to correct a discrepancy that I found. If you are going to comment, at least answer my question. Thank you.

(May 09 '12 at 01:07) researcher researcher's gravatar image

Salam of course we follow him, we follow more than the christians do not all.

(Jun 14 '12 at 03:46) TeenMuslim ♦ TeenMuslim's gravatar image

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by why should somone gain a reward of heaven by simplt sayin yes jesus is the lord and go on do whatever is bad you say that isthe teachings of jesus but he neve said not even once he is the lord so why do people get the reward of heaven by saying he is the lord when jesus himself never said that or guarenteed that on his followers

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yes we do follow jesus teaches we belive hesent the same message as the rest of our prophits did if you notice the techings of jesus muslims are the most people who follow it jesus only ate kosher food this is equal to halal food jesus never drank niether do muslims jesus had a beard, the prophet said to grow beards as a part of worship, jesus wore loose clothing muslims wear loose clothing mary, jesus's mother covered her hair and wore loose clothing muslims wear this, jesus did not eat pork, muslims do not eat pork, jesus once prayed to the lord by putting his head to the ground as said in the bible and quran and this is the same worship that muslims do and jesus was circumsized and muslim men are circumzised muslims are the closest followers or jesus even though christianity has the name christ in it and we belive in heaven hell and salvation, so wat part of his teachings is it that we do not follow?

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I do not think that Jesus taught to only eat kosher food, grow beards, cover your hair, not eat pork, etc..,those are things on the outside. I have never heard of those being teachings of Jesus. I believe that Jesus' teachings concerned the inside of a man,the thoughts and motivations and such, not the outside.

Christianity's teachings about heaven, and hell are different than Islam's.

For example, it seems as if Muslims believe that entry to Paradise depends on recognizing and worshiping Allah, and performing good works. Conservative Christian denominations teach that one must first be saved by trusting in Jesus as Lord and Savior before one can attain Heaven.

(Apr 17 '12 at 20:44) researcher researcher's gravatar image

@Nesreen A. Jesus didn't eat pork so it is wrong to eat pork? He didn't eat Turtle Soup nor apples either, so Muslims should not eat that by your logic. Jesus never drank? His first miracle was to make water into wine at the "party" he was at. Not only that, he drank and shared his cup at communion. Never declared he is Lord? John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." The Jews tried to stone him for claiming to be God. He also never rebuked anyone for calling him Lord or praising him. You really need ro read these Books. We don't get reward in heaven for simply stating Jesus is Saviour, we gain eternal life in heaven. The Bible says we will lose rewards in heaven (who knows what they may be) if we do bad deeds, but not eternal life.

Now to answer the question, Jesus' words are claimed to have been corrupted so his teachings were different to what the Gospels say. Muhammad is also called the final and the Great Prophet becuase supposedly restored God's original religion. In Islam, Jesus was a prophet whose words were also twisted so following his teachings pf just professing he is Christ should not get anyone into heaven because only God forgives sins.

Hope I answered it correctly from a Muslim viewpoint.

(Apr 18 '12 at 10:44) David David's gravatar image

by not eating pork i mean he abstained from it he waa never offered turtule soup then said no its forbiden but pork is forbiden in the bible you just dont follow your own religion that you claim to be the truth secondly that passage was over exagerated and many christian scholars have said so and that it was translated incorrectly and an older bible in a different language would tell you that, and the wine into water thing- show me where it is in the bible give me the quotes because i never read it before i would like to see what it says myself, and when did anyone ever call him lord and he didnt say anything give me evidence of that too i and if you dont get eternal life in heaven by simply stating jesus is the savior then why does everyone keep saying so the majority of christians think so tey say jesus diesd for our sins we can do what we want because of him we jus have to belive and say he is the lord I know that people dont get reward for saying jesus is the lord that is what islam teaches us im pointing out how absurd it is that people think so you are on the right path you know tha you must work hard to recive paradise and you seem to be devout inreligion not like the type of christians that simply say they will enter heaven for claiming jesus is the lord however i dont share the same views with you about jesus and that may simply be the reason why i would like to guide you and share my views and religion with you

(Apr 18 '12 at 18:51) NesreenA ♦ NesreenA's gravatar image

@Nasreen A. Turning water to wine: John 2:1-11. Jesus did not deny claiming to be God when the Jews in John 10:33 wanted to stone him for claiming to be so; he simply went on to claim God is in him and he is in God. In Mark 1-11 Jesus is riding into town on his Colt and the people are praising him and worshipping him. He does not say "All praise should be to Allah" or anything. I don't know how you miss these verses if you actually read the books. Tell me, where does Jesus say pork is forbidden, in my religion? About our good deeds, If you believe Isaiah was not corrupted by the Jews, then Isaiah 64:6 tells us "All our righteous acts are like filthy rags." Not just that, do you as a mere sinful human by nature think you can make yourself worthy before an eternal, all-knowing, all-mighty and great God? God does not NEED us, he can make perfect, sinless ones as simple as anything. I find it bold when someone claims they can be good enough for God. Christians are more righteous because we can admit that we are hopeless, that our righteous acts are like filthy rags, we are sinful and incapable of making ourselves worthy of God, and that we rely solely on his mercy to gain everlasting life with him. All other religions claim "we can make ourselves worthy for God by doing certain acts." The Ten Commandments in the Old Testament where there to show the Jews they could not be righteous enough to enter heaven, and that they needed a saviour. The only thing we as humans have is faith. And believe me, it IS hard work to keep professing Christ to be saviour throughout your entire life regardless of the conditions. It is not as simple as it sounds. Imagine the eary Christians and how hard it was for them to remain faithful under the persecution of Nero, whom even burnt Christians in his garden as a source of light. Holding faith until the end is hard work. The Bible says faith pleases God. I never said we do not get eternal life in heaven by stating Christ as our saviour. You must have misread my comment. I have never heard a Christian scholar claim the verse where Jesus claims he and the Father are one is incorrect or overexaggerated. It has been translated correctly; we have had 2000 years to translate one simple sentence. You can't claim I don't follow my own religion because you firstly do not know my life and secondly there is nothing to do except profess Jesus as our saviour. Christians do good deeds not because they have to, but because they WANT to. No Christian lives a sinful life, simply because they have been transformed by the Holy Spirit upon professing Jesus to be saviour. Yes, we can technically live a sinful life even as Christians but that never happens because a Christian does not want to. God knows that all too well, once we experience him he knows we never want to forsake him.

(Apr 18 '12 at 20:18) David David's gravatar image

http://www.openbible.info/topics/eating_pork this is from a christian website it wasent made up by muslims it was people from your own religion admitting pork it prohibited.........so that makes me wonder what else are you wrong about.....oh ill say about everything you just said the way you think is like that human beings are worthless, why would god create somthing that is worthless why would christians be rewarded heaven for doing nothing or worse than nothing sinning all their lives then saying jesus is our savior then you go to heaven? thats absurd and being christian dosent gurentee you paradise you said we can technically sin all we want and why is that like i said in the first place chistians think they can sin all they want cause jesus saved them then you denied it but you just said it yourself of course somone following a contradictory book is gonna contradict their self, you are what you follow right? its hard to say jesus is your lord? manye its cause its not true and is it as hard as worshipping no you are just like the other christians "ïll go yo heaven no matter what cause im christian" thats pathetic

(Apr 19 '12 at 01:52) NesreenA ♦ NesreenA's gravatar image

@Nasreem A. Ok, Nasreem... We have started our own discussion here instead of trying to answer the question, so this will be my last comment here. English is evidently not your native language, so I think our problem is that you did not understood everything I said. Also, I only just realised there is a lot you do not know; I assumed you had lots of knowledge on what we discussed.

Firstly, there is a difference between Judaism and Christianity. All the examples on the link you sent me about pork being prohibited are from the OLD Testament, meaning in JUDAISM. All the examples of all food being allowed are from the NEW Testament, meaning in CHRISTIANITY. As Christians, we are not under the Old Covenant of Judaism, but under the New Covenant. My point is, pork is not prohibited in Christianity but is prohibited in Judaism, which is common knowledge. So, you need to learn more about our religion before claiming we are not following it.

I never contradicted myself, you did not read through properly nor double check my comment. In my previous comments I disproved just about everything you said about Christ, so now you begin making hate comments and spew out nonsense without any evidence.

Let me try to explain, again. All Christians' sins are covered because of Jesus' sacrifice. When a person becomes a Christian, they can live however well they please. BUT, the thing is that no Christian will live an ungodly life because of CHOICE. If a Christian is living sinfully and knows it then they are not a Christian by heart. A Christian will do good deeds and abstain from sin because they WANT to, because of their love for Christ. The Ten Commandments were there to show us we could not be perfect. God knows himself that there will not be a true Christian who is living sinfully, that is why he does not need to give us new commandments. Jesus claimed himself he has not come to abolish the law, but to fulfil it (Matthew 5:17). Remember, "And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him." (Hebrews 11:6) The reason God forgives our sins through Christ is explained here, in John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." He loves us, so he has given Jew and Gentile alike the same opportunity to get to live with him for all eternity. No strings attached, just one simple condition: believe that God came down as a human and sacrificed himself upon the cross for our sins, because of love, because of mercy, because we cannot get to heaven by our own deeds: "All our righteous acts are like filthy rags." (Isaiah 64:6) It is pride that makes us think we can please God through our acts. Why do you think the Jews constantly made sacrifices to God? Because they had to constantly ask for his mercy.

You should read Paul's letters to the various Churches during his age, he explains all your questions very, very well (Romans, my favourite, 1st and 2nd Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1st and 2nd Thessalonians, 1st and 2nd Timothy, Titus, and Philemon are all of them.)

Now, enough chit chat, I got questions to ask.

(Apr 19 '12 at 10:44) David David's gravatar image

All praise should be to Allah" or anything. I don't know how you miss these verses if you actually read the books. Tell me, where does Jesus say pork is forbidden, in my religion?

mr.david most of bible verses have been changed im not sure it is the geniune verse

(Apr 22 '12 at 09:25) Mumtaz Mumtaz's gravatar image

@NesreenA jews and christians will be never pleased with muslims al baqarah 2:[120-121]. so even if you give your best to teach them that jesus is just a prophet like other prophets they will not believe you and infact will puzzle you more and more. so dear let it be our main aim is just to say that jesus is just a prophet of Allah and not a god and we did it.now its up to them whether they accept it or not.Allah knows the best.

(Apr 22 '12 at 11:14) aaliya ♦ aaliya's gravatar image

@NesreenA- You asked David not to assume anything about being from a different country or about English not being your native language. I think you gave him the right to assume that from your spelling and grammar. If you have lived in America all your life, don't you think you could give a little more effort to using correct spelling and grammar, as well as some punctuation?

I found your answers harder to read and understand than the other answers because of these factors. It was hard to tell where the sentences ended and began. Please do us all a favor and write a little more comprehensibly. Thank you.

Also, I only wanted to do research on your religion and find some answers for my questions and some clarification for information I had found on your religion. I did not appreciate your attitude. You were rude and belligerent towards David, whomever he may be. If that is a typical Muslim woman's attitude, it is not a good one.

(May 09 '12 at 00:58) researcher researcher's gravatar image

what do you not understand @researcher ?

(May 09 '12 at 04:57) Al Ummat ♦ Al%20Ummat's gravatar image
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