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Are Islamists allowed to lie for there faith? I have read that the shea do this and that the sunni say that they don't but that they actually do. What is truth?

asked 43621 Athanasius's gravatar image
closed Apr 08 '13 at 14:49 sadie ♦ 1.6k315 sadie's gravatar image


Let me put it this way...

  • If you are hanging me upside down and torturing me in order to get me to say something, I will probably say what you want me to say (whether it is true or not).

  • If we are army generals on opposing sides on a battlefield, and you ask me something like "Isn't your army scared?", I would lie and say "Of course not; we're ready to die fighting".

  • If we are married and you ask me, "Honey, do I look fat in this dress?", I will say whatever it takes to keep you smiling.

Now outside of the above three situations or something akin to it, you can count on me, and any other honest Muslim worth his/her salt, to speak the truth at all times. The Qur'an says, "Stand up for the truth and justice, even if it is against your own selves.

The real ones practicing deceit, lying, and concealment of agenda are the ones who are always accusing Muslims of doing it. It is the Pamela Gellars, the Walid Shoebats, the Pat Robertons, the John Hagees, the Robert Spencers, etc., who would love to deport every Muslim from the U.S. back to a Muslim country, close or destroy every single mosque in the U.S., prohibit all Muslim organizations from operating on U.S. soil, and nuke Mecca and Madina. But they will never say these things publicly, because they realize that it would be politically correct and viewed as extremist, so they conceal their true feelings and opinions. And in some ways, this is understandable; they must be politically shrewd and strategic in the way they work. Very few of us will go out and yell out all our political feelings and prejudices on the public street.

I hope this clarifies and puts things in context.

answered 12613 AnwarX's gravatar image

Shaddad bin Aus (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Prophet (PBUH) said, "A wise man is the one who calls himself to account (and refrains from doing evil deeds) and does noble deeds to benefit him after death; and the foolish person is the one who subdues himself to his temptations and desires and seeks from Allah the fulfillment of his vain desires". [At-Tirmidhi].

Commentary: This Hadith highlights the importance of the accountability of one's self. Mere desires which are not coupled with practical efforts are of no avail because Allah grants reward on good deeds and not on yearnings and desires which are not supported by noble actions.

answered 2329 Muhammad%20Izammudin%20Ismail's gravatar image

Allah swt says that reward will be given for just the desire of performing an act pleasing to him

(Mar 01 '12 at 05:59) rouk rouk's gravatar image

In my last post, "politically correct" should have been "politically incorrect".

answered 12613 AnwarX's gravatar image

friend forget this shia muslim and sunni muslim.we should stay united every where. lying is prohibited in islam unless and until you have a reasonable reason to lie for.

answered 1.1k2416 aaliya's gravatar image

Well, from what I know in Shia Islam you can lie when under threat or persecution. It's called taqiyya. The thing is what can be considered as a "threat" or "persecution".

answered 791210 jenny_'s gravatar image

Do the Ten Commandments have no effect on those of you answering as if lying is acceptable in certain situations?

answered 316 jook's gravatar image

Ok so the families who hid Jews from Hitler .... And the people who helped slaves in the underground railroad.....

(Apr 07 '13 at 23:57) sadie ♦ sadie's gravatar image

The Ten Commandments

1.) Thou shalt have no other gods before me 2.) Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image 3.) Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain 4.) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy 5.) Honour thy father and thy mother 6.) Thou shalt not kill 7.) Thou shalt not commit adultery 8.) Thou shalt not steal 9.) Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 10.) Thou shalt not covet Those are the commandments .

answered 1.6k315 sadie's gravatar image

Where is it speaking of lying ?

(Apr 06 '13 at 23:02) sadie ♦ sadie's gravatar image

If you would not bear false witness against your neighbor, why would you bear false witness against yourself?

Proverbs 19:5 A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.

Proverbs 12:22 Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, but those who act faithfully are his delight.

Proverbs 12:19 Truthful lips endure forever, but a lying tongue is but for a moment.

Numbers 23:19 God is not man, that he should lie, or a son of man, that he should change his mind. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not fulfill it?

(Apr 07 '13 at 19:56) jook jook's gravatar image

Lying is allowed in Islam in only three conditions- 1)If ones life is in danger 2)For solving a dispute between two persons 3)A husband praising his wife to make her feel good

answered 1023 shariquerasheed92's gravatar image


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