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Hi Everybody,

Allah said that he created us and the (djinns) to adore him ''وما خلقت الإنس والجن إلا ليعبدون'', I want to understand firstly what realy means to daore Allah; and why Allah was in need of this adoration? I can't be like Allah want me to be (for example i can't put a hijab cuz our days we can't find a job with hijab on our heads, another example, I can't wake up everday early to do salat alfajr) it's so hard for me to execute what he demand and it's make me sad because it's over my mental and physic capacity...so I want a good prouf that Allah exist(don't tell me that coran is a proof; because it's assebled by mans and i'm not convinced by it's veracity; so I want scientific and logic prouf, and if we admet that he exist that's mean that he is the most perfect existence, so why our world is very horrible and imperfect, just tell me why and why Allah have created all this) and please tell me a good reason to adore him after all that, I'm serious and i realy want to understand, i've tried to kill my self because i'm fed up to live without knowing why and such of people gave me such stupid reason, they just tell me ''we are here to adore god, to do something beautiful''' but why????, I don't want this life, and i think that's i have to total right to do to my self what i want if it's dont touch the other, so why i don't have the right to kill my self instead of telling me that doing this will send me to hell......Thank you in advance and help me please, I'm just a human just like you...

Sorry for my imperfect english, because i speak it just a little bit, normaly I speak french and arabic that's al

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to who voted -1, we are not here to judge people, we are here to give answers to our confused souls, other than you are perfect?

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@MadMe the voting up and voting down is just for what you said, judging, the point of it is for the distribution of karmas through the users. The voting up or down, the theory of doing that is that good questions go to the top and bad questions go to the bottom. There is no reason to be upset, whatever vote kind you get Insha'Allah you still get an answer.

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You ses? because of this question I believe now in God and his Messenger...that learned me that no one have the right to judge someone or undervalue his thoughts and his way of thinking

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:21) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

ALHAMDULILLAH! Sister I am too happy! May Allah bless you with the greatest blessings for turning back to Him! @Adbuallah2011 Thank you so much for your help as always brother! I love you both very much!

(Aug 31 '12 at 07:03) cocolia42 cocolia42's gravatar image

ALHAMDULILLAH!!! thts Y I did!!!!!!!!!!!

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about second video, it's talking about chapter 30 Al rum "Romans" Allah said " غلبت الروم في ادني الارض وهم من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون في بضع سنين" that verses includes two miracles, the video is talking about only one which is the word "Adna" أدني الارض most of old scholars had translated the word adna as the nearer land, which is a true translation literally but you will find that you don't understand the verse well, and then you will say why Allah said about the dead sea in the Jordan it's the nearer land, you won't find an answer. but the people missed that the word Adna has another meaning which is lowest you are arabic, so hopefully you got that i'll give you example, what's the arabic translation of that phrase "the level of the nile reached it's lowest level within the last ten years" the Arabic transaltion will be وصل ارتفاع النيل الي ادني مستوي له في العشر السنين الاخيرة" we hear that usually in the news specially in the stocks markets so the word Adna has 2 meanings, the nearest and the lowest

where was that battle were the rums were beaten? close to the dead sea in Jordan read all the old books you will find that? so is the dead sea of jordan is the lowest point allover the world?? Yes it's where from i got that? http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/deadsea.html visit that link and read it

how did prophet Mohamed know that the dead sea is the lowest point on the earth? you who have to answer that

No, i think you have no excuse not to be convinced i hope that we tie this point by your confirmation and go to the next point

Best regards :)

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Hi dear, i hope that we could offer you the good support to show you the truth from your message i figured out that your problem isn't with the prayer or Hijab, your problem is with the god's existence, this is your main problem and i believe if it's solved everything will be OK with you you need a proof that there's a god, really you who had to prove that there's no god, everything in this world has a manufacturer if you see a BMW car, surly it comes to your mind that there's a company called BMW that manufactured this car or how it's? if you see a sony television you will figure out that there's a company called SONY that specialist in manufacturing televisions and each manufacturer provides a catalog or a product guideline to tell the user how to perfectly use this product so why this universe out of that rule in your mind? the rule says everything has a manufacturer so it exclude the universe you have to prove why you exclude it indeed the quran answered and replied on that claim since 1400 years ago in a very logical and sensible way "Or were they created by nothing, or were they the creators [of themselves]?,Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Rather, they are not certain" 52:35-36 and although of that i'll prove to you that the quran is the word of the creator who had created this universe, visit this link and watch it carefully http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9dMqTxR19s

it talks about that the iron wasn't formed in the earth it was sent to the earth because it's impossible to be formed on our planet and what Allah said about the iron in chapter 57 "alhadeed" the "iron" you speak arabic so it would be easily for you to get it after watching, tell me how prophet Mohamed peace upon him knew that 1400 years ago? who told him that? nobody could know that in that era, so the manufacturer of the earth who told him that "ALLAh"

still not convinced?? watch this link too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkeOzsqHk8c

now if we agreed about the god's existence, just tell me to begin discussions about the other branches you said like veil, fixing the world, prayers,...

hoping the guidance for you :) Best regards :)

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I realy appreciate your answer, I didn't saw the videos yet cuz I've some prob with my lap, when I do it I will tell you and of curse if I'm convinced I will be realy happy that you repond to my questions about the imperfection of a world which was created by a Perfect and the contradiction between this: "الله ارحم بعباده من الوالدة بولدها" and this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx901L60cgg ...I see a psychologue now because of this video..

Thank you again for your understanding and the beautiful way that you answerd to me

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let's not open different topics on the same time, let's finish it one by one, see the videos first and let's see are you convinced that the god of Islam is the creator or not, and then i'll answer all of your questions, believe me it's too simple questions if we first agree about god's existence faith is like tree, has roots and branches i talk about the roots "god's existence" then we can care about the branches and sub branches if there's no root no tree, but if there's a root it's possible to have an amazing tree

(Aug 30 '12 at 10:49) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

Love it! ..I will comment your videos asap

(Aug 30 '12 at 10:58) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

Hi

Regarding first video:

if we take a literal reading of verse 6 of Sura 39 we would result [...] He sent down for you eight kinds of cattle in pairs [...] Should we therefore conclude that the first cattle were created and fully formed within the confines of the universe to be balanced on our planet?

Ithink "scientific miracle" is therefore nothing but a biased reinterpretation

The second video is quite low quality..and I didnt realy understand it

(Aug 30 '12 at 15:03) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

because of long answer, it would in another answer, it won't be within the comment's tab, so please check it below

(Aug 31 '12 at 01:22) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

"Yes I'm, because I've lived with a such of hypocrite and confused people who pretented to be muslims (I'm talking about my family)"


Do not judge a religion by the hypocrites and wongdoers. Even the best religion has them.


"Then we caused to inherit the Book those We have chosen of Our servants; and among them is he who wrongs himself, and among them is he who is moderate, and among them is he who is foremost in good deeds by permission" (35:32)

"Enven I was educated as a muslim, I've my own personality, I have the total right to doubt this education in order to find what is right and what is not."


You are right here, sister.


It was narrated that Anas bin Mâlik said: The Messenger of Allah said “Seeking knowledge is a duty upon every Muslim”. ” (Sunan Ibn e Majah, Book of Sunnah, Hadith no 224, Classified as Sahih By Allama Albani)

It was narrated from Zaid bin Thâbit that the Messenger of Allah said: “May Allah cause his face to shine, the man who hears what I say and conveys it (to others). Many of those who have knowledge but no understanding, and many who convey knowledge to those who have more understanding of it than they do” ” (Sunan Ibn e Majah, Book of Sunnah, Hadith no 230, Classified as Sahih By Allama Albani)

"Can you tell me then why would Allah allow the thorah, bible..(all words from allah)to be corrupted but not the Quran?"


This is why every Muslim recites the Quran in Arabic. Not to make it difficult for the non-arabic speaking people, not to make it so non-believers can't understand. So that if one word is changed, a good Muslim will know it. The Torah and the Bible were translated into many languages over the centuries. The words were changed sometimes unintentionally, sometimes with purpose to make it more appealing to gain followers. How would I, an english speaking person, know if something was changed from the hebrew or greek? Keeping the quran in its original language guards against this corruption.

Sister, continue to seek knowledge with an open mind and God will show you the truth.

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I dont judge any religion specialy Islam because of my parents, but we can't deny that parents play a big role in there children's life and the vision which had there children on life

(Aug 30 '12 at 11:25) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

yes, I agree parents play a big role. And in your case, your parents behavior is what led you to search for the truth. As I said before, just because we think something is bad, doesn't mean it is. God knows what He is doing and we will only know in the end. Then we will see how perfect He is.

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if I admit what you said, I will think that even Satan is bad, he is useful (by God) to test us, so why will he send him to hell if he did serve him...i hope you understand me

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it seems to me you are most definetely confused. as an educated muslim female i don't quite understand why it would be difficult for you to wear the hijab or wake up to offer fajr prayers - have you tried to do either one of these things??? i do alhamdulilah and its just a way a life, its not difficult. i think the problem here is that you are not even willing to make an effort. think about it rationally with an open mind and you might get it!! okay, lets start...firstly you say that you need proof that allah exists and you don't believe the koran is proof of that - why woman??? why is it sooooooo hard to believe the koran as proof??? the koran has not been changed, altered for thousands of years. if the koran came merely from the minds of men how on earth would people know that the earth was round and not in fact flat as was thought all those thousands of years ago? in those days people didn't know as much as they do now YET the koran revealed most of the things all those years ago that the scientists have come to know of just recently.

scientists explain how the universe came into being 'the big bang theory'. according to this theory the universe was one big mass, then there was a 'big bang' which resulted in the formation of galaxies these then formed stars, planets etc. then the koran states: "do not the unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together (as one unit of creation), before we clove them asunder?" Al-Koran 21:30.

the above verse clearly states the so-called 'big bang'. if the koran was not proof of allah then how could a book 1400 years old contain such profound scientific truth??? there are thousands of examples such as the one above.

i think instead of trying to commit suicide you seriously need to get a grip of yourself. honestly. educate yourself and thank allah for all the good things you have in life. and before i go i would like to mention another thing: you say that if allah created such a beautiful world then why is it horrible and imperfect?? the reason as i believe, is because we are all here on earth for a test. its a test, hence the reason we are all accountable for whatever we do - right or wrong. allah has made this beautiful earth for us to enjoy yet we, the PEOPLE NOT ALLAH destroy it and behave badly and fight and do bad things.

therefore, in conclusion i honestly think that you should not think about suicide becuase yes it is haraam and if you want proof of allah all you need to do is look around you with an open mind. how can the earth be created by man??? how can flowers and trees grow from a single seed?? how do the weather's change?? surely man hasn't done any of this, right?

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@still learning

"it seems to me you are most definetely confused"

Yes I'm, because I've lived with a such of hypocrite and confused people who pretented to be muslims (I'm talking about my family)

"as an educated muslim female i don't quite understand why it would be difficult for you to wear the hijab or wake up to offer fajr prayers"

Enven I was educated as a muslim, I've my own personality, I have the total right to doubt this education in order to find what is right and what is not..

If your parents where christians, should you execute what they educated you or will you look for truth by your self?

"have you tried to do either one of these things???"

absolutely, how would I found this difficult if I didn't try it?...Note that I was a Muslim

"i do alhamdulilah and its just a way a life, its not difficult."

Enjoy it then but note that not all humans have your same way of thinking and there also people who are at peace and tranquility by worshiping other gods

"I think the problem here is that you are not even willing to make an effort"

Please stop judging me, YOU DO NOT KNOW anything about my life and efforts

"think about it rationally with an open mind and you might get it!!"

It's because I decided to open my mind if I I'm asking you these questions

"firstly you say that you need proof that allah exists and you don't believe the koran is proof of that - why woman??? why is it sooooooo hard to believe the koran as proof???"

Explain everything by Coran or Allah, it means to cut short any question, to suppress any intellectual curiosity

"why is it sooooooo hard to believe the koran as proof??? the koran has not been changed, altered for thousands of years."

Can you tell me then why would Allah allow the thorah, bible..(all words from allah)to be corrupted but not the Quran?

"if the koran came merely from the minds of men how on earth would people know that the earth was round and not in fact flat as was thought all those thousands of years ago? in those days (...)how could a book 1400 years old contain such profound scientific truth??? there are thousands of examples such as the one above."

Everyone see truth where ever he want, each verses are explained in many ways by each muslim...so how to know what is right and what is wrong...You know i've heard that haroun yahya said that the DABBAt al-ard which is anounced in this hadith:(Dabbat-ul-ard has four feet like the feet of a camel and wings like a bird. Its head is like the head of an ox. Its ears are like the ears of an elephant. Its tail is like the tail of a ram.)Of the hadith-i sharifs written in the books Faraid-ul-fawaid, Mukhtasar-i Tadhkira-i Qurtubi, Magharib-uz-zaman, and Al-Qawl Al-Mukhtasar fi Alamat Al-Mahdi Al-Muntazar,(google it if you doubt it)and coran: (When that Word befalls them [when Doomsday approaches], We will bring forth for them a Dabba [a beast] from the earth. That Dabba will tell them that humans did not firmly believe in Our âyât.) [Surat an-Naml 82], correspend to Technology and Internet...Haroun Yahya said that the ears of this DABBAT is our laptop!!!!! This is realy shildish and funny I think...

"i think instead of trying to commit suicide you seriously need to get a grip of yourself. honestly(...)allah has made this beautiful earth for us to enjoy yet we, the PEOPLE NOT ALLAH destroy it and behave badly and fight and do bad things."

Why does God test us? to know who realy love him and to reward them the paradise? who told you that I'm agree with that, why didn't he take our approval on this..I dont want this test and neither his paradise,I Wish I was just nothing...

"therefore, in conclusion i honestly think that you should not think about suicide becuase yes it is haraam and if you want proof of allah all you need to do is look around you with an open mind. how can the earth be created by man??? how can flowers and trees grow from a single seed?? how do the weather's change?? surely man hasn't done any of this, right?"

I've never said that the earth was created by man, so please dont made me said what I didn't said

of curse my little mind will not be able to understand creation..how about the creator?..

In conclusion:

{سَنُرِيهِمْ آيَاتِنَا فِي الْآفَاقِ وَفِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَتَّى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمْ أَنَّهُ الْحَقُّ أَوَلَمْ يَكْفِ بِرَبِّكَ أَنَّهُ عَلَى كُلِّ شَيْءٍ شَهِيدٌ } فصلت:53

I will keep asking my questions to who pretending understanding everything while waiting for my turn..

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**Hello ... Egyptian here :D ...

Allah said : (وما خلقت الجن والأنس الا ليعبدون) that's means that the first and most important job for us is to adore Allah ...

lets continue (مَا أُرِيدُ مِنْهُمْ مِنْ رِزْقٍ وَمَا أُرِيدُ أَنْ يُطْعِمُونِ (57) so Allah doesn't want anything from us ... we need Allah

we have to adore Allah and love him and Mohamed (صلي الله عليه وسلم) until we die

cuz without Allah we are NOTHING ... without Mohamed (صلي الله عليه وسلم ) we would be praying three gods or we would be praying money

.. Allah will not gain anything from us anything .. (وَمَنْ كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَنِيٌّ عَنِ الْعَالَمِينَ)

and the world is nothing for Allah .. if it was you would never seen any atheist .. so if anybody didn't believe that there is a god created the world Allah will not lose anything ... do you think that O.o he will lose not Allah

also as we are adoring Allah perfectly ... our mistakes will be lower than usual .. we will not insult anybody .. we will not be criminals :D .. (إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمْ خَيْرُ الْبَرِيَّةِ (7) so who adore Allah and be good man will win heaven where there is no bad man and the best place ever

why we adore Allah ? i give you example : (ولله المثل العليا ) if you have a servant and he insulted you and he escaped and he has been the best man ever

do you think that you will love him ?

so we should Adore Allah to gratitude and we should be good so we win the heaven

SO :D : Allah doesn't need us ... WE NEED ALLAH

got it :D?

sry for my horrible English :D**

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@Abdullah you did not realy convinced me by that (Muhammed wives and marriage..), I will tell why asap..cuz now I have to work and need more time to explain my point of view

Otherwise I atest that There is no god but Allah (because of surat Romans) and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah (because if he did receive that secret which is lowest part of the earth that's mean he was contacted by a God and in result that's mean that he is a messenger)

BUT

I do still think that many of hadiths are a lies even if there are in Mulim or Bukhari Sahih (if there are illogic to me and make me feel bad things towards Muhammed or Allah like that Mohammed had got a bad spell and thoughts that he had sex with Aicha, this is realy Stupid...the concept of MESSENGER OF ALLAH dont accept that these things happen to him so To me this not a true hadith, and there a lot of other hadiths in my head)

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I do still think that not all verses are 100% from Allah neither Mohammed recite them to people ( because of the same previews reason about hadiths)

To resolve this I will expose the unliked hadiths one by one and you have to give a good argument that it's logic and true and dont pose any problem

Same thing about Koran's verses, i will start read Koran from the begining and expose each verse I dont like or dont understand. This will take a lot of time but it worth it

...What do you think?

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i had gave you all of my award point, i think this is enough answer that i'm totally agree about the plan you suggested although that i'm not fully about hadihts but i'll try to do my best to offer me, you and all people here the absolute truth, and i think we will not argue a lot about quran, quran is really clear and amazing and i'm sure it would be too for you.

now, you have to thank Allah who guides you to his straight path :)

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yes I can say Alhamdulilah for finding that shahada is true

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:06) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

I also thank you very much and May allah take 11% of my hasanat and give them to you, and 9% for cocolia42 (Sorry I dont have a lot!! lool)

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:11) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

keep your hasanat for yourself, each body needs his hassant just pray for us and we will be rewarded inshallah without deducting anything from you :)

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:50) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

That's my way to thank you so it's discourteous to reject it (if someone giving you a gift will you ask him to change it?), it wasn't a compliment, I realy meant my supplication..

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i appreciate all you gift to me and many thanks and my best wishes to you :)

(Aug 31 '12 at 15:50) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

the satan hasn't serve the god ... the satan prided and refused to fall down to Adam (عليه السلام)

so Allah judged to expel the satan from the heaven and his way will be to the hell

so the satan asked the god to give him time till Day of Judgment and he promised that he will make the human out of the right way ...

so do you think that he should better to be in the heaven ?

Allah will send him to the hell becuase HE REFUSED ALLAH'S ORDER

for example : you have killed somebody ... you took a judge to be killed :D then you escaped and you killed some criminals who they have a judge to be killed

do you think that the govrnement will forgive you becuase you helped them O.o

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for the first video, no you can't say that, you speak Arabic so i hope you would understand me easily, you know that the arabic language is too flexible and the words have a wide varietyof meanings, likw for example the word Salat "الصلاة" when we talk about people it means prayers to Allah, when we say that angels do Salat like in chapter 33:56 is the word salat here means prayers no, it means duaa دعاء also in the same verse the word Salat comes with Allah is that means Allah does salat no, it means blesses, so the Arabic word could have different meanings the word "ANZAL" أنزل also has different meanings according to it's position in the phrase so in verse 39:6 the word "Anzal" MEANS produce or create how come, look to the words around the word anzal and you will understand it, Allah is saying that he created us in our mother's womb in three darkness and plus that he had created "Anzal" the 8 pairs, it's clear that anzal here doesn't mean sent down because allah connected it with the word Khalaq in the same phrase and also with referring to verse 16:5 back to our verse, 57:25, the author of the video gives the watcher a message by putting lines under the words sentdown, Allah is saying that he had sent the messengers and the books, if you check the quran from A to Z u will know that when the word Anzal used with the books and messenger it means sent down, and then he said and we sent down the iron, he mentioned this after that inorder not to allow anybody to think in another meaning of the word anzal except "sentdown" it seems you are deeply thinker, tell me why Allah mentioned iron here what's the chance? if you read the context, you can remove the part of iron and you will still able to figure out and understand the whole chapter, so why he had mentioned it in that position of the chapter? think and think you won't find a proper reason except that, he wills to send a message to us that he really meant the word Anzal to be understood as sent down why he didn't mention in it in verse 4 of the same chapter, it's talking about creation of the sky and earth, so why not he put it there? you know why? because it maybe understood as create not sent down because it would be accompanied by the word create the heaven and earth, so to remove the doubt he put it with sent down the books because the words of the god are not creatures but it's his words and he said and it's an adjective of him

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