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Hi Everybody,

Allah said that he created us and the (djinns) to adore him ''وما خلقت الإنس والجن إلا ليعبدون'', I want to understand firstly what realy means to daore Allah; and why Allah was in need of this adoration? I can't be like Allah want me to be (for example i can't put a hijab cuz our days we can't find a job with hijab on our heads, another example, I can't wake up everday early to do salat alfajr) it's so hard for me to execute what he demand and it's make me sad because it's over my mental and physic capacity...so I want a good prouf that Allah exist(don't tell me that coran is a proof; because it's assebled by mans and i'm not convinced by it's veracity; so I want scientific and logic prouf, and if we admet that he exist that's mean that he is the most perfect existence, so why our world is very horrible and imperfect, just tell me why and why Allah have created all this) and please tell me a good reason to adore him after all that, I'm serious and i realy want to understand, i've tried to kill my self because i'm fed up to live without knowing why and such of people gave me such stupid reason, they just tell me ''we are here to adore god, to do something beautiful''' but why????, I don't want this life, and i think that's i have to total right to do to my self what i want if it's dont touch the other, so why i don't have the right to kill my self instead of telling me that doing this will send me to hell......Thank you in advance and help me please, I'm just a human just like you...

Sorry for my imperfect english, because i speak it just a little bit, normaly I speak french and arabic that's al

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to who voted -1, we are not here to judge people, we are here to give answers to our confused souls, other than you are perfect?

(Aug 29 '12 at 21:10) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image
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@MadMe the voting up and voting down is just for what you said, judging, the point of it is for the distribution of karmas through the users. The voting up or down, the theory of doing that is that good questions go to the top and bad questions go to the bottom. There is no reason to be upset, whatever vote kind you get Insha'Allah you still get an answer.

(Aug 30 '12 at 07:24) Al Ummat ♦ Al%20Ummat's gravatar image

You ses? because of this question I believe now in God and his Messenger...that learned me that no one have the right to judge someone or undervalue his thoughts and his way of thinking

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:21) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

ALHAMDULILLAH! Sister I am too happy! May Allah bless you with the greatest blessings for turning back to Him! @Adbuallah2011 Thank you so much for your help as always brother! I love you both very much!

(Aug 31 '12 at 07:03) cocolia42 cocolia42's gravatar image

ALHAMDULILLAH!!! thts Y I did!!!!!!!!!!!

(Sep 06 '12 at 09:30) Asifmuslim Asifmuslim's gravatar image

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about second video, it's talking about chapter 30 Al rum "Romans" Allah said " غلبت الروم في ادني الارض وهم من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون في بضع سنين" that verses includes two miracles, the video is talking about only one which is the word "Adna" أدني الارض most of old scholars had translated the word adna as the nearer land, which is a true translation literally but you will find that you don't understand the verse well, and then you will say why Allah said about the dead sea in the Jordan it's the nearer land, you won't find an answer. but the people missed that the word Adna has another meaning which is lowest you are arabic, so hopefully you got that i'll give you example, what's the arabic translation of that phrase "the level of the nile reached it's lowest level within the last ten years" the Arabic transaltion will be وصل ارتفاع النيل الي ادني مستوي له في العشر السنين الاخيرة" we hear that usually in the news specially in the stocks markets so the word Adna has 2 meanings, the nearest and the lowest

where was that battle were the rums were beaten? close to the dead sea in Jordan read all the old books you will find that? so is the dead sea of jordan is the lowest point allover the world?? Yes it's where from i got that? http://www.atlastours.net/jordan/deadsea.html visit that link and read it

how did prophet Mohamed know that the dead sea is the lowest point on the earth? you who have to answer that

No, i think you have no excuse not to be convinced i hope that we tie this point by your confirmation and go to the next point

Best regards :)

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hi

it's true that god wants us to adore him on the other hand he said he is needless.he doesn't need and want any thing. so why does he want us to adore him ?

here's the answer: adoring god doesn't have a benefit for god but it has benefit for our selves. those who still have pure souls enjoy adoring god because they know the true meaning of being with god and talking to him. in my language we call these people AREF.for example MOLANA was an AREF. they know the true goal of this world.

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my bro allah does not care of his adore but allah knows what is good for humanity. To adore allah is not only for allah but actually a practice of being a good human being if u adore allah u also obey his rules & allah knows what is gone bad by humans if does not obey the rules.

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i had gave you all of my award point, i think this is enough answer that i'm totally agree about the plan you suggested although that i'm not fully about hadihts but i'll try to do my best to offer me, you and all people here the absolute truth, and i think we will not argue a lot about quran, quran is really clear and amazing and i'm sure it would be too for you.

now, you have to thank Allah who guides you to his straight path :)

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yes I can say Alhamdulilah for finding that shahada is true

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:06) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

I also thank you very much and May allah take 11% of my hasanat and give them to you, and 9% for cocolia42 (Sorry I dont have a lot!! lool)

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:11) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

keep your hasanat for yourself, each body needs his hassant just pray for us and we will be rewarded inshallah without deducting anything from you :)

(Aug 31 '12 at 06:50) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

That's my way to thank you so it's discourteous to reject it (if someone giving you a gift will you ask him to change it?), it wasn't a compliment, I realy meant my supplication..

(Aug 31 '12 at 08:18) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

i appreciate all you gift to me and many thanks and my best wishes to you :)

(Aug 31 '12 at 15:50) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

@Abdullah you did not realy convinced me by that (Muhammed wives and marriage..), I will tell why asap..cuz now I have to work and need more time to explain my point of view

Otherwise I atest that There is no god but Allah (because of surat Romans) and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah (because if he did receive that secret which is lowest part of the earth that's mean he was contacted by a God and in result that's mean that he is a messenger)

BUT

I do still think that many of hadiths are a lies even if there are in Mulim or Bukhari Sahih (if there are illogic to me and make me feel bad things towards Muhammed or Allah like that Mohammed had got a bad spell and thoughts that he had sex with Aicha, this is realy Stupid...the concept of MESSENGER OF ALLAH dont accept that these things happen to him so To me this not a true hadith, and there a lot of other hadiths in my head)

AND

I do still think that not all verses are 100% from Allah neither Mohammed recite them to people ( because of the same previews reason about hadiths)

To resolve this I will expose the unliked hadiths one by one and you have to give a good argument that it's logic and true and dont pose any problem

Same thing about Koran's verses, i will start read Koran from the begining and expose each verse I dont like or dont understand. This will take a lot of time but it worth it

...What do you think?

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...Certainely. But in other hand I think that the whole Koran isnot from allah that why we find lot of contradictory and anacceptable things like the fact that only Mohammed was authorised to have more then 4 woman or he was authorised to marry the woman of his adopted son (this is realy...i think taht sometimes he recites his own desires)and also the fact that man can have woman as slave (ma malakt aymanokom)... Aso Mohammed was a subject of bad spell and he had some; if can say "hallucinations" as he tought that he had sex with Aicha while it's wasn't the case...so who told us that is in this period or any other period all the verses he recieted was correct or true (i mean from allah)??? )(maybe one day he just dreamed or had a psychological trouble...as he is not perfect like all humans no? Most of muslim talk about him like if was perfect and he did the one who wrote and assemble the coran, also we know that many part of Koran was lost (in fact we can't assimil a message if it's not complete)..asembled by man (we can doubt its veracity)...

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well, first if the quran isn't from the creator of the universe so how Mohamed knew that the dead sea is the lowest point of the earth? second, all of what you said is just doubts and if you look on the internet you will find many proper answers for your questions, i don't like to go in more details, but you don't have any proof about what you said you asked for a proof that quran from the god and i did, so let's agree about a point, you are opening many subjects in one comment how i could chase all of that without even agreed about the first pont

(Aug 31 '12 at 03:53) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

look, Muslims said bible is corrupted this is a useless phrase without evidence, we gather evidences that christians couldn't asnwers, we prove errors, contradictions and illogical things, you claim the quran is corrupted give me one evidene for your claim or it would be considered as nothing

(Aug 31 '12 at 03:54) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

and for sure claioming that the prophet married his son's wife is a big lie, Zaied "زيد" isn't the prophet's son, don't believe everything orientalists tell you

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:06) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

when I said certainely, I meant that Im agree with you on the dead sea and some scientific things...I said also that the whole Koran is not from God I mean that there is just parts of Koran which is it..So I can say YES..some verses is From Allah Sorry if ask a lot questions but they was just as exemple in order you to understand me

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:11) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

I said that he married his ADOPTED son's wife...In my point of view if someone adopted a son and this ADOPTED son got married, the one should considere his adopted son's wife like his daughter no? adopted or not adopted it's the same thing for me, we should respect his wife and considere her as a daughter

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:19) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

so, could i conclude that you finally has no doubt about the god's existence?

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:19) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

listen dear, the holy quran from A to Z is from the god, and there are many proofs about that i just pick to you two of them, but i have tens of proofs from quran and hadith that it's a word of god, who claimed another thing should provide evidence or a proof? do you have one?

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:20) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

i just have seen your comment about the adopted son's wife let's post the verse to explain it more chapter 33 verse 4, 5. Allah said

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:25) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

" And He has not made your wives whom you declare unlawful your mothers. And he has not made your adopted sons your [true] sons. That is [merely] your saying by your mouths, but Allah says the truth, and He guides to the [right] way, Call them by [the names of] their fathers; it is more just in the sight of Allah . But if you do not know their fathers - then they are [still] your brothers in religion and those entrusted to you. And there is no blame upon you for that in which you have erred but [only for] what your hearts intended. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:26) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

above verses revealed that allah forbade adoption why?? because it's changing for the truth and causes in many errors like that a guy could marry a girl who is really his sister but because of adoption she isn't his sister in law also a guy may not be allowed to marry a girl because of adoption she becomes his sister in names so to avoid this troubles allah forbade adoption

this was the introduction, let's go to the verse you meant verse 33:37 allah said

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:29) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

And [remember, O Muhammad], when you said to the one on whom Allah bestowed favor and you bestowed favor, "Keep your wife and fear Allah ," while you concealed within yourself that which Allah is to disclose. And you feared the people, while Allah has more right that you fear Him. So when Zayd had no longer any need for her, We married her to you in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:29) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

zaied was a poor man while zainab his wife was too rich woman, and he usually felt that she treated him badly because of his poverty and she wasn't happy too because of she used to live as a rich so zaied went to the prophet to ask him that he wills to divorce her and the prophet teold him not to divorce her, till allah forbade adoption and revealed to the prophet zaied will divorce zainab and then you will marry her

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:38) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

then zaied divorced her and the prophet married her to give the people a practical lesson that the adopted son isn't a real son and the evidence that that the prophet married zainab, so he removed any doubt in the people hearts so the marriage was for learning people not more and so that allah finished the verse by saying"in order that there not be upon the believers any discomfort concerning the wives of their adopted sons when they no longer have need of them. And ever is the command of Allah accomplished"

(Aug 31 '12 at 04:40) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

you see how you were unjust with the prophet who spent 23 years of his age suffering, struggling and facing troubles to make you a muslim to enter the heaven and then you are offending him :(

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for the first video, no you can't say that, you speak Arabic so i hope you would understand me easily, you know that the arabic language is too flexible and the words have a wide varietyof meanings, likw for example the word Salat "الصلاة" when we talk about people it means prayers to Allah, when we say that angels do Salat like in chapter 33:56 is the word salat here means prayers no, it means duaa دعاء also in the same verse the word Salat comes with Allah is that means Allah does salat no, it means blesses, so the Arabic word could have different meanings the word "ANZAL" أنزل also has different meanings according to it's position in the phrase so in verse 39:6 the word "Anzal" MEANS produce or create how come, look to the words around the word anzal and you will understand it, Allah is saying that he created us in our mother's womb in three darkness and plus that he had created "Anzal" the 8 pairs, it's clear that anzal here doesn't mean sent down because allah connected it with the word Khalaq in the same phrase and also with referring to verse 16:5 back to our verse, 57:25, the author of the video gives the watcher a message by putting lines under the words sentdown, Allah is saying that he had sent the messengers and the books, if you check the quran from A to Z u will know that when the word Anzal used with the books and messenger it means sent down, and then he said and we sent down the iron, he mentioned this after that inorder not to allow anybody to think in another meaning of the word anzal except "sentdown" it seems you are deeply thinker, tell me why Allah mentioned iron here what's the chance? if you read the context, you can remove the part of iron and you will still able to figure out and understand the whole chapter, so why he had mentioned it in that position of the chapter? think and think you won't find a proper reason except that, he wills to send a message to us that he really meant the word Anzal to be understood as sent down why he didn't mention in it in verse 4 of the same chapter, it's talking about creation of the sky and earth, so why not he put it there? you know why? because it maybe understood as create not sent down because it would be accompanied by the word create the heaven and earth, so to remove the doubt he put it with sent down the books because the words of the god are not creatures but it's his words and he said and it's an adjective of him

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the satan hasn't serve the god ... the satan prided and refused to fall down to Adam (عليه السلام)

so Allah judged to expel the satan from the heaven and his way will be to the hell

so the satan asked the god to give him time till Day of Judgment and he promised that he will make the human out of the right way ...

so do you think that he should better to be in the heaven ?

Allah will send him to the hell becuase HE REFUSED ALLAH'S ORDER

for example : you have killed somebody ... you took a judge to be killed :D then you escaped and you killed some criminals who they have a judge to be killed

do you think that the govrnement will forgive you becuase you helped them O.o

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**Hello ... Egyptian here :D ...

Allah said : (وما خلقت الجن والأنس الا ليعبدون) that's means that the first and most important job for us is to adore Allah ...

lets continue (مَا أُرِيدُ مِنْهُمْ مِنْ رِزْقٍ وَمَا أُرِيدُ أَنْ يُطْعِمُونِ (57) so Allah doesn't want anything from us ... we need Allah

we have to adore Allah and love him and Mohamed (صلي الله عليه وسلم) until we die

cuz without Allah we are NOTHING ... without Mohamed (صلي الله عليه وسلم ) we would be praying three gods or we would be praying money

.. Allah will not gain anything from us anything .. (وَمَنْ كَفَرَ فَإِنَّ اللَّهَ غَنِيٌّ عَنِ الْعَالَمِينَ)

and the world is nothing for Allah .. if it was you would never seen any atheist .. so if anybody didn't believe that there is a god created the world Allah will not lose anything ... do you think that O.o he will lose not Allah

also as we are adoring Allah perfectly ... our mistakes will be lower than usual .. we will not insult anybody .. we will not be criminals :D .. (إِنَّ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ أُوْلَئِكَ هُمْ خَيْرُ الْبَرِيَّةِ (7) so who adore Allah and be good man will win heaven where there is no bad man and the best place ever

why we adore Allah ? i give you example : (ولله المثل العليا ) if you have a servant and he insulted you and he escaped and he has been the best man ever

do you think that you will love him ?

so we should Adore Allah to gratitude and we should be good so we win the heaven

SO :D : Allah doesn't need us ... WE NEED ALLAH

got it :D?

sry for my horrible English :D**

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"Yes I'm, because I've lived with a such of hypocrite and confused people who pretented to be muslims (I'm talking about my family)"


Do not judge a religion by the hypocrites and wongdoers. Even the best religion has them.


"Then we caused to inherit the Book those We have chosen of Our servants; and among them is he who wrongs himself, and among them is he who is moderate, and among them is he who is foremost in good deeds by permission" (35:32)

"Enven I was educated as a muslim, I've my own personality, I have the total right to doubt this education in order to find what is right and what is not."


You are right here, sister.


It was narrated that Anas bin Mâlik said: The Messenger of Allah said “Seeking knowledge is a duty upon every Muslim”. ” (Sunan Ibn e Majah, Book of Sunnah, Hadith no 224, Classified as Sahih By Allama Albani)

It was narrated from Zaid bin Thâbit that the Messenger of Allah said: “May Allah cause his face to shine, the man who hears what I say and conveys it (to others). Many of those who have knowledge but no understanding, and many who convey knowledge to those who have more understanding of it than they do” ” (Sunan Ibn e Majah, Book of Sunnah, Hadith no 230, Classified as Sahih By Allama Albani)

"Can you tell me then why would Allah allow the thorah, bible..(all words from allah)to be corrupted but not the Quran?"


This is why every Muslim recites the Quran in Arabic. Not to make it difficult for the non-arabic speaking people, not to make it so non-believers can't understand. So that if one word is changed, a good Muslim will know it. The Torah and the Bible were translated into many languages over the centuries. The words were changed sometimes unintentionally, sometimes with purpose to make it more appealing to gain followers. How would I, an english speaking person, know if something was changed from the hebrew or greek? Keeping the quran in its original language guards against this corruption.

Sister, continue to seek knowledge with an open mind and God will show you the truth.

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I dont judge any religion specialy Islam because of my parents, but we can't deny that parents play a big role in there children's life and the vision which had there children on life

(Aug 30 '12 at 11:25) UnknownUser UnknownUser's gravatar image

yes, I agree parents play a big role. And in your case, your parents behavior is what led you to search for the truth. As I said before, just because we think something is bad, doesn't mean it is. God knows what He is doing and we will only know in the end. Then we will see how perfect He is.

(Aug 30 '12 at 13:39) cocolia42 cocolia42's gravatar image

if I admit what you said, I will think that even Satan is bad, he is useful (by God) to test us, so why will he send him to hell if he did serve him...i hope you understand me

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