Greetings! I am currently in college studying the Bible and its history, and in so dong, have become interested in not only learning about Chrisitanity, but also it's fellow descendants from Abraham, that is Judaism and Islam. Living in Kentucky, it is hard for me to find an imam close by to ask these questions of. "The closest mosque is, i believe, a little over an hour away). At any rate, I was hoping to be able to ask questions here and get answers from everyday Muslims about their religion, namely:

1: Is there some way for me to refer to prophets without appending pbth or other honorifics, without being offensive to you?

2: I am not sure I understand the Islamic view toward the Gospel. If it was not distorted, as you believe, then would Muslims view it as scripture?

God bless you.

asked 414 CuriousScholar's gravatar image
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Hi CuriousScholar-- thanks for your question.

It is not obligatory, even for a Muslim, to always say "peace be upon him" after the names of the prophets. It is just a courtesy, a good piece of etiquette. So it is not expected of you. If God guides you and blesses you with His grace so that you are enabled to pray and send peace on the souls of the great prophets Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad, etc., so be it. But no Muslim is going to fault you for not doing it.

As for your second question, the Qur'an states that the "Injil" (or "gospel") was a Revelation from God. But which "gospel"? Was it talking about the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? The Gospel of Thomas? The Gospel of Judas? The Gospel of Mark? Which one? Fortunately, the Qur'an not only mentions "the Gospel" but also defines it. In Qur'an 5:46, God states: "We gave him {Jesus} the Gospel".

According to the above definition, the Qur'an cannot be talking about the Gospel of Thomas, the Gospel of Judas, the Infancy Gospel of Thomas, or, for that matter, the four gospels of Mark, Matthew, Luke & John. This is because God did not reveal any of these books to Jesus. Jesus never read any of these books.

So according to the Qur'an, "the Gospel" is some type of a message-- whether actually a physical book or not-- that Jesus preached under the direction instruction or inspiration of God. Both Muslims and Christians can agree that such a gospel does not exist, at least not anymore. Nonetheless, in so far as the present day four canonical gospels in the NT must contain some aspects of Jesus' original teachings, we still respect it and might even occasionally refer to it as "the Gospel", while understanding that it is not exactly synonymous with "the Gospel" that the Qur'an is talking about. There is some overlap, to be sure, but the two are not identical.

Now as for the couple of Christians that are raising their objections-- let me boil this down for you:

If you read Mark 1:14 and other similar passages in your four canonical gospels, you will see that it says things like "Jesus went into Galilee, preaching the gospel."strong text Now obviously, this "gospel" that Jesus was preaching was not a copy of the Gospel of Mark that he was carrying under his arm. No. This "gospel" that Jesus was preaching was a pure message from God. That is the "Gospel" that Muslims claim to believe in, 100%, not 75% or 50%. That "gospel" that Jesus is preaching in Galilee-- that is the gospel that I believe in.

As for the second Christian objection-- "How can you believe in a Scripture if it is tampered?" Easy. Do you believe in EVERYTHING that Jesus said? The answer will be yes. But do you have a complete record or transcript of everything that he ever said, everything that he preached? No. Do you believe in everything that Jesus wrote? The answer is yes. But do you have a transcript of anything that Jesus wrote? No.

The closest thing you have to anything Jesus wrote is the report in John 8:6, in which it says that Jesus stooped down and wrote something in the ground using his finger (in order to dispel the angry mob). But what did he write down? I've been asking Christians this question for years, and no one has a precise answer, only conjecture. And yet, if we were able to time-travel and take a peek at what Jesus wrote in the ground, we as Muslims and Christians would undoubtedly believe in it. We would consider it to be the Truth.

So to summarize-- that short message that Jesus wrote in the ground with his blessed finger comes much closer to the Qur'anic definition of "the Gospel" than anything we find in the New Testament today. Nonetheless, there is an overlap, because at least some of the things that are reported in the four canonical gospels might be accurate representations of what Jesus said and did. Reports that are multiply attested to in the synoptic gospels, for example, are more likely to be true or accurate as compared to solitary reports/narratives found only in the Gospel of John.

Muslims are not really saying anything that liberal theologians and liberal biblical scholars are not saying. Islam in a sense foresaw the conclusions of modern-day liberal scholars like Bart Ehrman and others.

I hope this has been of some help to you.

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answered 12613 AnwarX's gravatar image

Thank you for your time to write out this detailed of an answer to me. You have, in fact, helped me a great deal with recognizing what the differences are between what Christians recognize s the Gospel and what Muslims recognize as Gospel.

God bless you.

(Feb 28 '12 at 08:43) CuriousScholar CuriousScholar's gravatar image

God bless you and lead you on the strait path.

(Feb 28 '12 at 10:41) Al Ummat ♦ Al%20Ummat's gravatar image

Hey AnwarX, i having receiving email that you have posted answers to me about you Muslims respecting Bible... And what I must tell you is that i am my self a Muslim A Muslim since i was born.. Thanks

(Feb 28 '12 at 21:34) zm14 zm14's gravatar image

asalaam aleykum,

very kind of you.... ....If i would address Issa bin Maryam without mentioning (Aleyhi salaam) i feel like i loose You know what.....=On him there is Peace from Almighty...wont you like some One to wish you all the best?

Talking about being Ibrahimic etc ...Gospel you respect it of course We muslim have been instructed to respect any say like an emblemnational flag, swastika , cross like this.

coming to either is distorted or not surely you can figure out How come to a book from god to be revised by humans till date.YET bible and Talmud there are few teaching which are intact.

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Precisely the same thing was taught by the Prophet Jesus (may Allah's peace be upon him) (29:60) How many an animal there is that does not carry about its sustenance. Allah provides sustenance to them and to you. He is All-Hearing, All-Knowing. *99

"While migrating you should not be worried about your means of livelihood as you should not worry about your life's safety. For none of the birds and the animals of the land and the sea that you find around yourself carries its provision with it. Allah is providing for all of them; wherever they go they get their provision through Allah's bounty. Therefore, do not be disheartened by the thought that if you left your homes for the sake of your faith, you would have nothing to eat. AIlah will provide for you as well from the sources from which He is providing for the countless of His other creatures:"

Precisely the same thing was taught by the Prophet Jesus (may Allah's peace be upon him) to his disciples when he had said: "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold :of the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon. Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than that, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: Quote: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin: And yet I say unto you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith? Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall .we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed? (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek ) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things. But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you. Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof." (Matthew. 6: 2434). ). The background of these discourses of the Qur'an and the Gospel is the same. Quote: There always comes a stage in the way of the propagation of the Truth when the follower of the Truth is left with no alternative but to stake his very life only with trust in Allah, regardless of the support and means of the material world. In these conditions, those who are too calculating about the possibilities of the future and seeking guarantees of the saftey of life and assurance of provisions cannot do anything.

Indeed, such conditions are changed only by the efforts and power of those who rise fearlessly in face of every danger and are even prepared to risk their very lives. It is all due to their sacrifices that ultimately the Word of Allah is raised high and all other words and creeds stand humbled and subdued before it.

http://www.rc.net/wcc/readings/matt6v24.htm

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This particular column started as a very polite question from a Christian who was curious about Islam. Answers and comments were equally civil initially. Then suddenly a few seemingly fanatics of religions destroyed the peaceful exchanges of information into a war of ideologies. How do you think you can impress the questioner with such an attitude. Criticize not one another's beliefs. You need not be hostile to prove a point.....you can equally impress your opponent with polite but firm answers based on the religious teachings not your personal opinions. Let us keep this discussion civil........

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answered 3014 nashiko's gravatar image

if you have noticed that is what happens when you give information to a christian confusedsoul comes and askes his own question its not bad he requests information too but it does always lead to argument look at any question from a christian or athiest and you will see that an argument started

(Mar 06 '12 at 21:32) NesreenA ♦ NesreenA's gravatar image

I suppose you don't have to do so since you are not a Muslim, but then I am not one either. But never was accused for not putting those after Mohammed's name.

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answered 791210 jenny_'s gravatar image

Assalamualaykum.. to those who are learning Islam, go to Huda Online academy. they offer helpful courses for free. I just recently converted from Christian to Muslim and this online academy really helps great. ALLAHU AKBAR..

http://forum.islam.com/questions/879/questions-from-a-christian-to-muslims

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answered 32 Jannah%20H's gravatar image

Peace,

I am very pleased that you have asked these wonderful questions and for your concern of our feelings therefore, I will answer your questions and will start with how to not to offend us and in the Qur'an God says,

[The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination] [2 v285] therefore, you can not disrespect Allah His Angels His Books and His Messengers as we do not make any distinctions between as they were all prophets from Allah and you should use respectful words but there is no harm if you mentioned them by their names.

As for your second question I want you to contemplate these verses as they will tell you why we believe what we believe about other scriptures that been distorted and the reason why they have been distorted by men, so Allah says,

[Mankind was [of] one religion [before their deviation]; then Allah sent the prophets as bringers of good tidings and warners and sent down with them the Scripture in truth to judge between the people concerning that in which they differed. And none differed over the Scripture except those who were given it - after the clear proofs came to them - out of jealous animosity among themselves. And Allah guided those who believed to the truth concerning that over which they had differed, by His permission. And Allah guides whom He wills to a straight path][sura 2]

{Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allah spoke, and He raised some of them in degree. And We gave Jesus, the Son of Mary, clear proofs, and We supported him with the Pure Spirit. If Allah had willed, those [generations] succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to them. But they differed, and some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. And if Allah had willed, they would not have fought each other, but Allah does what He intends] [sura 2 v253]

I hope this will give you an idea hopefully.

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answered 3443 caabi's gravatar image

confusedsoul:

Your approach is not impressing anyone here. It is a typical Christian missionary approach, that deceives and conceals. If you believe the Bible is "100% from God", as you state, why are you then hesitant to call yourself a "Christian"? This is just semantics and word play. Come out clean.

You asked me about what translation says "almost dead" in relation to Jairus' daughter. The NIV says "My daughter is dying" (Mark 5:24, by the way). That means she is almost dead. The KJV and ESV say "My daughter is at the point of death", meaning that she is at the mouth of death, about to die (but not dead yet).

The simple answer is, virtually all translations put it the same way. In Mark, Jairus is saying that his daughter is almost dead. The same incident occurs in Matthew, but Matthew changes Jairus' words to "My daughter is ALREADY dead". He could not have said both statements at the same time, because they are mutually exclusive.

So whether you call yourself a "Christian" or not, the point is, you assert that the Bible is the correct standard, and that the Bible is the 100% Word of God and without errors. If this is so, please explain the above contradiction to us, and tell us which version (Mark's or Matthew's) you choose to believe or disbelieve. If you say you believe in both, please explain how you can simultaneously believe in two completely contradictory and mutually exclusive statements.

Thanks.

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answered 12613 AnwarX's gravatar image

Arguments are natural when you have differences of opinions but they don't have to be harsh and hurting. I am sure you in the West, young and strong-headed maybe, have heard debates of scholars on theology on youtubes on the many websites originating mostly from the West too. You should learn from these knowledgeable and gentle people albeit militant in their voices/presentations. You see how well prepared they are (particularly the muslims) when they exploit their own Holy Book and those of their opponents as well. They DO NOT insult one another and they never lose their objectives of "un-earthing" the truth by first proving the authenticity of their sources. They do not ramble their own opinions. The truth will glare at you so to speak without having to resort to stamping on or embarrassing you opponents. Yes, I have noticed that whenever there is such a debate between, say, a Christian and muslim scholars, it is always obvious the the latter is always well prepared knowing not only their own Holy Book but also that of the opponent. In the end, in a cordial atmosphere, the audience can conclude for themselves the right from the less right. We should keep this forum as clean and civil as possible, please.....

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answered 3014 nashiko's gravatar image

All the same, I would rather try to be respectful if I could.

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answered 414 CuriousScholar's gravatar image

Thank you for taking time to answer.

I guess I read the wrong information, as I thought that Muslims do not recognize the Gospel as it stands today as Scripture.

God bless you

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