[closed] Prophecies Fulfilled

Ishmael was Abraham's child through flesh (Abraham had Ishmael through Hagar NOT Sarah) but Issac was the child of the covenant through which the Jews would be brought forth.

"And God said unto Abraham, As for Sarai thy wife, thou shalt not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall her name be. And I will bless her, and give thee a son also of her: yea, I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of people shall be of her. Then Abraham fell upon his face, and laughed, and said in his heart, Shall a child be born unto him that is an hundred years old? and shall Sarah, that is ninety years old, bear? And Abraham said unto God, O that Ishmael might live before thee! And God said, Sarah thy wife shall bear thee a son indeed; and thou shalt call his name Isaac: and I will establish my covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his seed after him. And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year. And he left off talking with him, and God went up from Abraham." - Genesis 17:15-22

It is important that the Jews were brought forth as God's chosen people and it is important that the Savior of the world was born amongst the Jews (in the line of Issac and not Ishmael) because of this:

" ...for salvation is of the Jews." - John 4:22

The Jews came through Issac and not Ishmael.

The full legitimacy of Ishmael as Abraham's son and "seed" and the full legitimacy of his mother, Hagar, as Abraham's wife are clearly stated in Genesis 21:13 and 16:3. After Jesus, the last Israelite messenger and prophet, it was time that God's promise to bless Ishmael and his descendants be fulfilled. Less than 600years after Jesus, came the last messenger of God, Muhammad, from the progeny of Abraham through Ishmael. God's blessing of both of the main branches of Abraham's family tree was now fullfilled. But are there additional corroborating evidence that the Bible did in fact foretell the advent of prophet Muhammad?

Muhammed was not Jewish and so salvation could not have come from, through or by him. Ishmael's blessing was already fulfilled before Jesus' first advent.

"Now these are the generations of Ishmael, Abraham's son, whom Hagar the Egyptian, Sarah's handmaid, bare unto Abraham: And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa, Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah: These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; twelve princes according to their nations. And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred and thirty and seven years: and he gave up the ghost and died; and was gathered unto his people. And they dwelt from Havilah unto Shur, that is before Egypt, as thou goest toward Assyria: and he died in the presence of all his brethren." - Genesis 25:12-18

Jesus is the fulfilling of the Law. We did not and do not have to wait for another, the Savior already came and His Name is Jesus Christ... there is no other name that you can look to for salvation.

Almighty God speaks to Moses in Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." The Christians say that this prophecy refers to Jesus (pbuh) because Jesus (pbuh) was like Moses (pbuh). Moses (pbuh) was a Jew, as well as Jesus (pbuh) was a Jew. Moses (pbuh) was a Prophet and Jesus (pbuh) was also a Prophet. If these two are the only criteria for this prophecy to be fulfilled, then all the Prophets of the Bible who came after Moses (pbuh) such as Solomon, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Joel, Malachi, John the Baptist, etc. (pbut) will fulfill this prophecy since all were Jews as well as prophets. However, it is Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) who is like Moses (pbuh): i)Both had a father and a mother, while Jesus (pbuh) was born miraculously without any male intervention.[Mathew 1:18 and Luke 1:35 and also Al-Qur'an 3:42-47] ii)Both were married and had children. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not marry nor had children. iii)Both died natural deaths. Jesus (pbuh) has been raised up alive. (4:157-158) Muhammad (pbuh) is from among the brethren of Moses (pbuh). Arabs are brethren of Jews. Abraham (pbuh) had two sons: Ishmail and Isaac (pbut). The Arabs are the descendants of Ishmail (pbuh) and the Jews are the descendants of Isaac (pbuh). Words in the mouth: Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was unlettered and whatever revelations he received from Almighty God he repeated them verbatim. "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."[Deuteronomy 18:18] iv)Both besides being Prophets were also kings i.e. they could inflict capital punishment. Jesus (pbuh) said,"My kingdom is not of this world." (John 18:36). v)Both were accepted as Prophets by their people in their lifetime but Jesus (pbuh) was rejected by his people. John chapter 1 verse 11 states, "He came unto his own, but his own received him not." iv)Both brought new laws and new regulations for their people. Jesus (pbuh) according to the Bible did not bring any new laws. (Mathew 5:17-18). It is mentioned in the book of Isaiah chapter 29 verse 12: "And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned." When Archangel Gabrail commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned". Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is mentioned by name in the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16: "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem." "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present. Asked by

No disrespect taken . Because in the bible the name of Muhammad sallahu allahi WA salim is present. In Hebrew scriptures the name muhammadim is written the im is a representation of authority . In English translations the word comforter is given . Other words are given depending on version of the bible you are reading. Also research the Greek word given . All which narrows down to Muhammad sallahu allahi WA salim. Also in the scriptures it says he will come shinning forth from Mt paran . Paran is Mecca . Also that he would be the fulfillment of all mighty gods promise to Abraham pbuh . That a great nation would come from the ishmaelite. Descendents of his son Ishmael. The proof is in the bible . The gospel, torah , and psalms link to the final revelation which is none other than the Qur'an.

To Believer.

Speaking about bad writings or mistakes in the Bible and that the Koran is supposed to be without faults, because the Koran and Islam is perfect is it said. I have to mention one thing that does not make the words spoken in the Koran not for the best benefit of that book. Because I have two sentences in the chapter 2 with about the sentence number 7.

"Allah has closed their heart and shut their ears, and blinded their eyesight. But it waits them a painful retaliation for their way."

Who are Allah talking about? It must be those who are not muslim, that is all other religions and non-believers. So Allah says he is gonna give those who do not see the truth and convert becoming a muslim a painful result on the judgement day. But how can Allah give that punishment to those others who do not take that supposed of truth written in the Quran when Allah has closed their eyes, shut their ears and blinded their eyesight? Then it is Allah`s fault or the one to blame for that they are not receiving that supposed of truth. Or am I just completely off track here. Could Allah be that cruel and as alike the Devil that he makes others who do not see the supposed of truth in the Koran/Quran experience painful result even after it was Allah himself that did it to them. It is clear to me, it is just about opening your eyes and ears. Because it has been told in propheties by Jesaja/Isaiah that there will be believers who can not see and hear, so they can understand. And since the Koran is 1400 years old and the Old Testament is from before Jesus came in year 0, then the Koran must be using the old propheties that Jews and Christians have in their religious books that came before the Koran. And that means that the Koran is copying prophecy from the Bible and Torah about some believers to come. It proberly became fulfilled when the Koran was made, because the believers have been waiting for who would be those with no eye sight, hear no and understand not. If Allah is the only God, then he made all books. And since the Koran is the last religious book from God, so would at least I made some new material like not copying the same message that has been told by other religious books before the Koran/Quran. Why would God make another religion other than create a fullfilled prophecy. If that is true, then Jews and Christians can not be blamed. Because they have just done as was told and lived their lifes as God wanted. Then Christians and Jews can as said not be blamed and can not be given a painful resort, because they already have been waiting for those believers that could not see, hear and understand. You see I took one look at the Koran and found a fault, I could of course find others. But I am gentle, but truthful to you now I think. Because I am gonna find other things if I look more that make the Koran and Islam with faults as you accuse the Bible to be. But one thing I can say is that if the God in Christianity and Judaism is not the same as Allah in Islam that could be the answer to why this has been done. Because you know who is Gods sworne enemy? Yes that is Satan or as muslims say Iblis, the one who schemes everyone to his advantage and his liking, because he wants to break down the belief of our God. Just read the Koran, there it will say that Allah is the best schemer. Schemer is the one who lure others to his benefit, that can be seen as what the Devil want. The sadly evil doer who needs Salvation. I am not gonna present any more things if people can not just take a look in other religious books at least and use their given intellect to understand who is who and what has happen in history and what will happen in the future. And reading what really is said in the Koran, not just doing what your nearest in your invoriment. But acctually make a effort to find whats truly in religions.

I am just being frankly, because you had to point out things that make the Old Testament no reliable or good enough for you or muslims. Since you pointed out more than one thing in the Bible, I just had to point out one thing that I found right away when I took a first look in the Quran/Koran. I started in chapter 2 actually, I just rolled the page to fast so I ended there. I know what your answer is gonna be, that it is a false book or that is just a one fault. But I am not gonna go hard on someone that probably is just a good believer who had to make a comment with his sight on the Bible. So I keep in mind, I have nothing but love for my fellow brother and human. I just had to answer your comment before, but I am not gonna go out looking for what other I could find to back me up. Because I can take this step by step or just let you find out yourself with your own findings. But this is not good enough probably others with you will say, but thats why I only took one thing I found to answer your attack on the Bible. I need just one thing to find out who is behind the book Quran/Koran. Sorry if you think I wrote to much to answer you and explaining myself with this one thing that makes some see the given light.

@ Only I still say Holy Quran is without any faults. If you don't understand something, its not the fault of Holy Quran. And I want to start my answer by quoting the verse from the same chapter of Holy Qur'an which you have quoted to prove it wrong, Allah has provided you answer in the same chapter but you never read it,

This is the Book about which there is no doubt, a guidance for those conscious of Allah [Holy Qur'an 2:2]

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Now I am providing you the answer for your questions and thus I expect answers of my questions from you as well. Which you have already read, I have showed you multiple Scientific Errors and Contradictions in Bible and I need answers

Lets start with the verse you quoted from Holy Qur'an.

Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment. [Holy Qur'an 2:7]

The above verse is regarding the disbelievers who when see the truth say we have not seen it. When they hear it they say we never heard it and in their hearts they know its the truth but they say its not the truth. And Allah (God) knows the matters of hearts. And Allah says in Holy Qur'an.

And whether you keep your talk secret or disclose it, verily, He is the All-Knower of what is in the breasts (of men). [Holy Qur'an 67:13]

So your claim, that its Allah's fault is totally unvalid. Its the fault of people who have gone that much astray from the true path that Allah (S.W.T) has set a seal on their heart. Allah guides them who wanted to be guided, who want to know the truth and who are ready to accept the truth when they see and hear.

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Your Claim No.2: And since the Koran is 1400 years old and the Old Testament is from before Jesus came in year 0, then the Koran must be using the old propheties that Jews and Christians have in their religious books that came before the Koran.

Answer: If you are saying that Holy Qur'an has copied the previous scriptures then tell me why Holy Qur'an has copied only the things which are Scientifically Proved without Contradictions? Why Holy Qur'an doesn't contain the Scientific Errors and Contradictions of Bible and Torah?

It proves that Holy Qur'an is the word of Allah (S.W.T).

And Also I can ask you the same question because Torah was before Bible so did bible has copied the Torah? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your Claim No.3: *Why would God make another religion other than create a fullfilled prophecy. If that is true, then Jews and Christians can not be blamed. Because they have just done as was told and lived their lifes as God wanted..*

Answer: For your question regarding "why would God make another religion". There is no new religion, God has provided human begins with one religion but do you know that Moses (PBUH) was sent messenger to only Bani-Israel (Children of Israel) and Jesus (PBUH) was also sent messenger to only Children of Israel and not to the whole mankind, what about the rest of the world?. The Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) was sent a messenger to whole mankind because he is the last messenger of God and no other messenger will be sent now who will show the true path to mankind and the religion which God has chosen for the mankind has been completed on Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).

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ALHAMDULILLAH, now I have answered all of your questions. And you were thinking that you have found a fault in Holy Qur'an by your random search. Disbelievers from 1400 years are trying to find a single fault in Holy Qur'an but they will never be successful because it is the word of Almighty Allah. So you should also embrace Islam because in hereafter you will have no good portion if you die as a non-believer.

And please don't use bad wordings, because in my comment I have showed you the Scientific Errors and Contradictions in Bible. I never used bad wording against Jesus (PBUH) and the God of Christianity because I know its Almighty Allah. I accept the Holy Bible which was revealed by God to Jesus (PBUH) as the word of God. I was showing you how people of that time had corrupted it and they edited the Bible with their own hand and that is why you can find multiple Errors and Contradictions in Bible. And the words which you have used in your comment is totally not acceptable, I don't even want to quote them.

So if you don't want to hear or see the truth, or you can not defend the corrupted Bible then at least don't show your frustration by hateful speeches. You should respect others religion even if you don't follow it.

Now I have provided you answers, to accept it or not its up to you. But now please provide me the answers for my questions. So if you can provide the answer of my questions in your next reply then we will only talk because then only I will think that you are serious. Otherwise I'm not interested in only me answering your questions but you are not answering my questions.

@ Only

what do you mean by "You have just blamed Allah for it" ?

And what do you mean by I have not provided you more then one answer? I have provided you the complete answer, but if you have decided not to accept then 1000 answers will not be enough for you. But you didn't give me a single answer out of my 6 questions, what is your explanation on that?

Iblis is Shaitan (Devil), what you call Lucifer. Iblis (Lucifer) was the former name of Devil when he was not the Devil but was a Jinn.

Why you are saying that you don't want to quote more? Accept it, you have no proof to declare the Holy Qur'an as not the word of God. So please, don't make excuses.

It would be better if you don't concentrate on finding mistakes in Holy Qur'an because you will not find any and try to read bible in deep and provide me answer of my questions.

Look at yourself, I provided you complete answer but you are not accepting it and you made the excuse that you need more explanation. See, I showed you the Errors and Contradictions in Bible you saw it yourself but you didn't believe it yet you have no answers for it. I gave you answer yet you are not satisfied. This is what I told you, when the disbelievers see the truth they say we have not seen it, when they hear they say we haven't heard.

Now I am sure that you have no answer for my questions and on the other hand you are not ready to accept the truth as well. So, I'll not waste more of my time with you because its no use.

I want to end my discussion with the verse of Holy Qur'an.

Indeed, your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that over which they used to differ.[Holy Qur'an 32:25]

I pray, you will embrace Islam before the Day of Resurrection.

Give me those questions again please... You have not provided me with anything proving in the Quran/Koran, just plain nothing to prove me wrong. Because I pointed out that maybe Allah is the Devil, it is just one thing. It can´t be hard to understand...

You say that I have claimed something, but claiming something does not make it right. So you got to understand that I am not claiming anything, I am telling you the way, the light and the answer to understand. Because it is the truth, please take it to your wisdom so you can understand it. Do not just ignore it and believe in what you have made up in your mind because Sheitan is the best schemer. And why make another religion that is totally the opposite of each other. Opposite is on one side God and Sheitan the other, I have said who is Sheitan and he is not a God. Do not worship Sheitan, believe in the good.. That is God if you can´t make up your mind...

@ Only

I know disbelievers like you, when have no answers they try to through the dirt on others. You are again and again disrespecting Islam. You are just saying "Maybe Maybe Maybe" Maybe you are Devil yourself. But I know you can do nothing more then that, Did bible tells you to be disrespectful to other religions? Because this is what you are showing here. Your book has not even taught you manners and you call it Word of God.

Here are the questions,

1. Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the first day? - It is unscientific.

2. Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day?

3. Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us… ‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific.

4. The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13…‘The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees - they were created on the 3rd day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight ?

5. Further, if we read, in Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says…There were 200 singing men and women - Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 - or were they 245 singing men and women? Context is the same - A mathematical contradiction.

6. Further, it is mentioned in the 1st Kings, Ch. No 7, Verse No 26, that…‘In Solomon’s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000 baths. In 2nd Chronicles, Ch. No 4, Verse No 5, he had 3000 baths. Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths?. There is a clear-cut mathematical contradiction.