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"Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” Matthew 24:1-2 - fullfilled 70 A.D. "Behold, I will gather them out of all countries where I have driven them in My anger, in My fury, and in great wrath; I will bring them back to this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely. They shall be My people, and I will be their God; " Jeremiah 32:37-41 - fulfilled 1948 (israel becomes a nation) , Ezekiel 20:34 and ezekiel 36:33-35 speak of the same thing. (much more prophecies for that though from DIFFERENT PROPHETS of the Bible) "Those who come He shall cause to take root in Jacob;Israel shall blossom and bud,And fill the face of the world with fruit." Isaiah 27:6 (Israel is the largest agricultural exporter of fruits and vegetable. Before the formation in 1948 nothing grew on that soil which is why nobody bothered to use it. Half of the land is desert, the climate and lack of water doesnt favor farming but obviously Bible prophecy shows nothing is impossible if God does it.) "And it shall happen in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very heavy stone for all peoples; all who would heave it away will surely be cut in pieces, though all nations of the earth are gathered against it. " Zechariah 12:3 (should I go any further? It's easy to tell that everyone is turning against Israel, even America." Psalm 83; They have taken crafty counsel against Your people, And consulted together against Your sheltered ones. They have said, “Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation,That the name of Israel may be remembered no more.” (there is more to this verse but I do not want to give incomplete information. But despite, it is easy to see that the middle east wants israel destroyed.. Other battle verses are Ezekiel 38) Revelation 9:16 "Now the number of the army of the horsemen was two hundred million; I heard the number of them" What country in the world is capable of having an army that large? none except China. As we know China hates Israel and is supplying Iran with weapons.... Read Isaiah 19. The scripture speaks that God will restore Egypt, the Egyptians and Assyrians will then make Christ their God and worship Him along with the Israel. please, I recommend that you would look into the archaeology of the bible and manuscripts as well. Of the Bible the New Testament alone has over 25,000 with 98% accuracy, the other percentage is grammar mistakes. Muslims claim that Christians have corrupted the Bible but how can that be? The discovery of the "dead sea scrolls" reveals that the Bible today is the same text as written on the scrolls, therefore no corruption of the original text. The archaeology for the bible is overwhelming and only 1 % of it has been discovered.I challenge you to compare archaeology, manuscripts and prophecies in the koran that have happened in the past years like the bible has. The only way to test for truth is to provide the evidence. Repent and ask Jesus for forgiveness. |
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The question has been closed for the following reason "Other" by sadie Mar 26 at 03:16
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Assalamo Alaikom Believer: Come on my brother and friend... This was not about anything other than to just point out that you should not point out what you think is not good enough in another religious book in other religion here on earth that makes you understand that this book in that religion is not good enough to be Gods words for you. That without reading and getting a response back with the same pointing out on making it not Gods words in your own religion, so I am saying is do not go around and point out those supposed to be not good enough to tell Gods words.. What is written that is making it not understandable says that you should read a lot more to get better insight I would recommend. The Bible as you have chosen has very much to read, so you should read the whole thing before making a comment I would recommend. I have as you probably understand read the whole Quran/Koran more than once and it made me more confident, because I found things that showed me who Allah is and gave me understanding of who I had to deal with. So it gave me a better understanding of what was really the goal in that book to become jackpot for who I can see now... In my comment I just pointed out one thing that had a very important message to understand, you tried pointing out more and more to make the readers confident with your answer on that the Bible is false or not good enough to be Gods words. Then you have to understand that at least one thing will be mentioned back in a comment to make you really become enlighten, I just gave you the light but you have to use a little bit of your own mind to see it. As-Salamu Alaykum |
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@ Only Walikum, Again you are talking useless things, because you have no answers. You have not even pointed out a single verse in Quran to prove its not the word of God. And what was your query, I have already answered it, its your fault if you do not understand Holy Qur'an. And the second thing is that I have pointed out specific verses from Bible to show the Scientific Errors and Contradictions and not my own poor understanding like you have for Holy Qur'an. You said: *you should not point out what you think is not good enough in another religious book in other religion here on earth that makes you understand that this book in that religion is not good enough to be Gods words for you.* Answer: I have not pointed out what I think, I quote you different verses from Bible containing Errors and Contradictions. I have not even given my comments on verses but I showed you what Bible has. if you call Bible is the word of God. But your Bible shows that your God do not even know what he has created. Can God make Scientific Errors and can God's words Contradict with each other ? And Almighty Allah says in Holy Qur'an: Should He not know what He created? And He is the Subtile, the Aware. [Holy Qur'an 67:14] Its up to you if you call Bible the word of God with Scientific Errors and Contradictions .However, I just need answers for my questions from you. So, will you again post some excuses and useless things in your next reply?. Or you will answer my questions? Its the third time I am asking you. |
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Believer: 1: Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. How can the cause of light be created on the 4th day - later than the light which came into existence on the first day? - It is unscientific. Answer: The light came on the first day, and you know light is day.. The cause of how the light was created with the stars and the sun on the fourth day, then the cause of that is made on that day.. Everything has a meaning. 2: Further, the, Bible says Genesis, Ch. 1, Verses 9 to 13… ‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ? Answer: You can have a night and day without the earth, because the earth was created on the third day. And God wanted some days before he did the next thing. A day was created before the sun, because with the sun came the night. Question: The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day? The rotation was needed in the creation of the earth but it had to have life in it to become the earth and rotation from the earth made it day and night. 3: Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses 14 to 19 says…‘The Sun and the Moon were created on the fourth day.’ Today science tells us… ‘Earth is part of the parent body… the sun.’ It cannot come into existence before the sun – It is unscientific. Answer: How can you be certain in that and how can science be certain in that to be true? 4: The Bible says in Genesis, Ch. No.1, Verse No. 11 to 13…‘The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs, the trees - they were created on the 3rd day And the Sun, Genesis, Ch. No. 1, Verses. 14 to 19, was created on the 4th day. How can the vegetation come into existence without sunlight, and how can they survive without sunlight? Answer: Do you not have faith in God that he can make life without sunlight? 5: Further, if we read, in Ezra Ch. No. 2, Verse No. 65, it says…There were 200 singing men and women - Nehemiah Ch. No. 7, Verse No. 67…‘There were 245 singing men and women.’ Were they 200 - or were they 245 singing men and women? Context is the same - A mathematical contradiction. Answer: Do you not have understanding that they counted first 200 singing men and women, but counted again and came to 245 singing men and women... But does this really say so much proving the Bible to not be the words of God. Then my statement proves the Quran to not be the words of God. 6: Further, it is mentioned in the 1st Kings, Ch. No 7, Verse No 26, that…‘In Solomon’s temple, in his molten sea, he had 2000 baths. In 2nd Chronicles, Ch. No 4, Verse No 5, he had 3000 baths. Did he have 2000 baths or did he have 3000 baths?. There is a clear-cut mathematical contradiction. Answer: What do we know if he took improvements and build more baths? It is not about how many baths there is in Solomon´s temple, but the message of what is told there. The message is from God. Who is the maker of 1st Kings and 2nd Chronicles, they have both talking about the same place but are two different people that has been there. They would be not accurate with each other, because they are not one person. Anything more? |
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First of all your English needs really improvement. And second thing I laughed so hard on your excuses because what you have said are not even called answers. because you have no scientific answers you are just giving excuses like, you are blaming proved science "How can you be certain in that and how can science be certain in that to be true?" Its so pathetic. God doesn't wrong this created laws of universe. And you are giving me excuses. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your excuse for the 4th question regarding The vegetation, the herbs the shrubs and the trees to be grown without sunlight was, "Do you not have faith in God that he can make life without sunlight?" Answer: let me quote you what Molly Bangs and Penny Chisholm (one of the winners of the 2010 SB&F Prize for Excellence in Science Books), said about the importance of sunlight for plants and vegetation. Source: http://sciencenetlinks.com/lessons/living-sunlight/ "Students in grades 3 to 5 know that plants need sunlight to grow, but they may not know how important sunlight is for plants, animals, and humans to survive. The science behind photosynthesis is a little complicated for this age group, but teachers can lay the groundwork for understanding through reading the book and doing the related activities." I think you haven't completed your 3rd or 5th grade yet. otherwise you won't be silly to say something like that. read and try to learn Why Do Plants Need the Sun?, What is Photosynthesis? and Why is Photosynthesis Important?, here is the link, http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4572051_why-do-plants-need-sun.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your excuse for the 5th question, "But does this really say so much proving the Bible to not be the words of God. Then my statement proves the Quran to not be the words of God." Holy Qur'an doesn't contradict. Your Bible contradicts, can a God make contradictions? Its so pathetic but I guess you didn't have a better excuse for that. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your excuse for 6th question, "What do we know if he took improvements and build more baths?" Solomon (PBUH) and his temple was created way before the Torah and Bible. And you are talking about improvements. continue with your 6th excuse, you said, The message is from God. Who is the maker of 1st Kings and 2nd Chronicles, they have both talking about the same place but are two different people that has been there. They would be not accurate with each other, because they are not one person. Now you are saying yourself that they both were people who were not accurate with each other. Then how can you say Bible is the word of God if it is not accurate? You said yourself "The message is from God", does the God of present Bible forgot what he told to one person and other. Now you have proved yourself that Bible has been edited and written by people's hand and thought and that is why Bible is not accurate. And if the people forget and they were not accurate, then it should not be the part of bible. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now regarding your 1st and 2nd question. You said for the 1st answer: The light came on the first day, and you know light is day.. The cause of how the light was created with the stars and the sun on the fourth day, then the cause of that is made on that day.. Everything has a meaning. You have just mixed the words but you have not provided any answer. Don't you understand without the cause of light (Sun and Stars) how can there be a day? and second thing day and nght is due to Earth and its rotation. And bible says in Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ If earth is created on the 3rd day according you Bible how can the light came on first day? There is no day without Earth, have you not taken science classes in you school? And you are telling me that proved science is wrong? by you saying in your 3rd ecxcuse: "How can you be certain in that and how can science be certain in that to be true?" Your excuse for the 2nd question, You can have a night and day without the earth, because the earth was created on the third day. And God wanted some days before he did the next thing. A day was created before the sun, because with the sun came the night. Question: The day depends upon the rotation of the Earth Without the earth created, how can you have a night and day? The rotation was needed in the creation of the earth but it had to have life in it to become the earth and rotation from the earth made it day and night. Your above excuse is totally wrong and pathetic even the 1st line of your excuse. you said "You can have a night and day without the earth, because the earth was created on the third day." We can not have a day and night without earth, day and night depends upon rotation of earth, I think you have not even completed your primary. Now look what have you said "because the earth was created on the third day." Which day you are referring? because DAY DEPENDS UPON EARTH. Please finish you school first and then came here to debate upon religion and scriptures. Now, your all excuses proved everyone here that it is not the Word of God and Bible can not even defend it self. You are just blaming Proved Science and asking me do I have no Faith that God can do this or not. You believe the writing of people as God's Words, God doesn't wrong his created laws of universe. |
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I am not making excuses my friend, I am telling you the way of truth. Stop being pathetic and blame me for your or others faults.. I am talking about the moon and the sun, are you so little minded that you can not realize it. I am not talking about excuses you weak believer, so do not say that I am. That is pathetic of you again as with the rest of your excuses... Sunlight to make it grow okey, but can not God make vegetation without sunlight? How do you know how it was when it was created, not with sunlight or anything? But those laws on these world was created by God before it was found out, everything is to make things hard to realize but with faith you will have Salvation. This is just stupid of you. Can´t you realize that I just pointed that out because you came with the claim that Islam was truthful, then I would say something for the Bible. And now you make up problems with my sentences. This really takes nuclear brain scientist to do. You must be really smart.. I am saying that two people trying to remember something, then someone will probably say something not accurate. But does that really have so much to say? Use your brain now, not your ass. Because can not you realize that things in the bible is not just 1400 years like the Quran, it is actually 3000-4000 years old and not tempered with. How can two people be accurate with each other if they have not met or seen each other.. Now I think this really takes a nuclear brain scientist to figure out, so you believe you are that. So please say what is right. Just read the words and stop finding faults to prove something that is only 1400 years of age against something that is twice as much in years... You say you can not have a night and day without the earth, but the day was created with light. Can you not understand? It is easy to understand, stop being a jerk now... |
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You poor mind. Plants can not grow without sunlight don't you understand. And God created the universe with laws. You are saying The universe was created first and then the laws, you are not even a knowledgeable person. I have not quoted you any verse from Holy Qur'an but I have quoted what Molly Bangs and Penny Chisholm (one of the winners of the 2010 SB&F Prize for Excellence in Science Books), said about the importance of sunlight for plants and vegetation. Source: http://sciencenetlinks.com/lessons/living-sunlight/ "Students in grades 3 to 5 know that plants need sunlight to grow, but they may not know how important sunlight is for plants, animals, and humans to survive. The science behind photosynthesis is a little complicated for this age group, but teachers can lay the groundwork for understanding through reading the book and doing the related activities." No, vegetation or plants can grow without sunlight. If you can not understand. What can I say more rather then please finish your primary. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Its not about 1400 years, 3000 years or 30,000 years. Its about the word of God. You are just saying "Day was created with Light". Answer me how can be a Day without the Earth? Because Bible says Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first DAY.’ Genesis, Ch. No. 1 Verses 9 to 13 says… ‘Earth was created on the third day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’. Now what I am saying is that, If the cause of light (stars and sun) are created on the Fourth Day, how can there be Light on First Day? without Source of Light (Stars and Sun) and the Earth (Without Earth, no Day). And if the Earth was created on the third day, then where are the First and Second Day? Because Without Earth there was not a single Day. For Days and Nights to be take place there should be an Earth and Source of Light (Stars and Sun). If you still can not understand, then I don't know to write in a more understandable english. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now I am sure, you are not trying to understand. And your excuses have shown that Bible has multiple Scientific Errors and Contractions, and you are not able to defend them. By using his sense, a person can say that word of God can not make Scientific Errors and Contradictions. And to end this, I want to quote a Surah (Chapter) of Holy Qur'an which suits on this situation perfectly, SUBHAN ALLAH (Glory be to Allah). Say, "O disbelievers, I do not worship what you worship. Nor are you worshipers of what I worship. Nor will I be a worshipper of what you worship. Nor will you be worshippers of what I worship. For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." [Holy Qur'an 109] |
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You are just talking around in your mind, because you just make good pointers in your head. Those are not even a pointer to mind, because you are really mislead good by Sheitan himself... For it is him that have mislead you, so you are forgiven. But only if you walk over to the light and step out of darkness. But you can be there I think, because you need skills to understand this. That you do not have, I am sorry.. Darkness do not have skills, it just have negativity and evil... And this talking about sunlight is needed on the trees to grow, come one get a grip my friend. Those who you have as a backup does not prove anything... You do not understand when life is created it grows no matter what and when light was created on the first day we are good. Are you gonna be more imbecile? |
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Bismillah arahman arahyim Kolle howa allahu ahad allahu asumad lam youlid WA lam youlad WA lam yakon laho kofoan ahad. Great true words of Allah. Bismillah arahman arahiym. All praise be to Allah cherisher and sustainer of the worlds. I would like to just say that the truth prevails over all. Its simply what you want to do with it. But no matter your action or your words will beguile the word of Allah subhana WA taala. He is the all knower and seeing he knew what would happen with previous revelations . That is why we have the noble Qur'an alhamdulillah. If you want to only follow the bible is ok. Is your choice . But you need to understand the bible will bare witness against you on the day of judgment. The bible is only part of revelation . With out the Qur'an you have no true guidance. On the day of judgment you will be judged by the final revelation the noble Qur'an. As salamu alaykum. |
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How can you know what is right, because you where born a muslim. I was born a Christian, so then I do just what I was born to do. Believe in God and have faith and belief in him.. You can not be certain without being God himself, for only God knows what is the truth and light of way... If you was born a christian and have become a muslim, then thats your choice. But also be maybe your fault, or more certainly yours... I have to mention that the light is of course God. And God came first, so the course of God to become was created on the fourth day. Do you understand now Believer? God was first, nothing is more true... Your statement that god is first is correct. He is also the last. None will stand but him all will die . Except him. Now only I was raised Christian yes and it lead me to Islam . Here is another fact god chose his religion in the beginning and it is without a doubt Islam. You can agree that god is without error yes? And you can agree that god knows all thing before after and during them happening yes"? My statement it is not, the truth it is. It is the truths statement. If God was the last why would there be others after him, then God is not last because he was the beginning. If he was the beginning, then he can not be the end. The end has not come yet, so the end is someone else. Maybe Satan... How can Islam be the one religion God chose when you are not God and know this, you are making accusation for God on his pick. And how do you know that God has made his choice? Maybe he waits until the end with choosing what he want... Anyway how could you know? You say without doubt, that is strong words by you. You must know what God wants, then maybe you are Allah. For you are not my God... God knows much, but there are others who do the same. Not that God would have any errors, but what about them that also know all things before, after and during happening. Is they not counted for? Are you ok?? I mean this most sincerely. Really are you ok? I see your response... Are you mocking me? For that can I read by what you are saying. Then probably you are talking to yourself, but it takes a special gift in you to see it. Think about it before you take your next move... You just proved yourself that it is you that should think about, not others like me.. For I am not the one on the wrong path... I am on the path: Peace-Love-Harmony No really I just am concerned. You yourself asked how can god be the last. I really wanted to know if your ok. You speak alot but never answer anything. Another reason why I wanted to know if your ok. You can't even say yes or no. Here lets try. Who created the heavens and earth and all in-between?
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